I produced a TV show that changed names while I was there. I'm trying to submit it under the new name, but it won't let me add it.

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I produced a TV show that changed names while I was there. I'm trying to submit it under the new name, but it won't let me add it. I've resubmitted it several times and included the third part link pallensmith.com to no avail. The show was originally called P Allen Smith Garden's and when I came on board we changed the name to P Allen Smith's Garden Style or simply Garden Style.
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Nikki: Is this the series currently entered as "P. Allen Smith Gardens" (2000)

If so, are you trying to submit an alternate name for it, or are you trying to submit it as an entirely new series? If it is the same series, "P. Allen Smith's Garden Style" and "Garden Style" ought to be submitted as alternate names, not a new series.

Please post your last full data submission here on this message board. You can copy it out of the receipt you would have received from IMDb by e-mail immediately after sending it in. Some of the regulars on the board may review it and, if they can, they may provide suggestions as to how to improve the submission to get it included in the database. (Also, please include the submission reference number -- it's an 18-digit number that will look something like 160123-123456-789000.)
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#160607-001921-632000

I'm not sure how I submitted it. This is my first entry on IMDB, but I think it was probably as a new entry.

"Garden Style" (2000)
  • New Title - Add
    • Plain Title: Garden Style
      Type: tv
      Sub-Type: series
      Status: released
      Year: 2000-????
      Source: ...producer/director/writer

  • Release Dates - Add
    • Country: USA
      Date: 17 November 2011

  • Country of Origin - Add
    • USA

  • Languages - Add
    • English

  • Color / Black & White - Add
    • Color

  • Genres - Add
    • Reality-TV

  • Distributors - Add
    • Company: Television Syndication Company (TVS) [us]
      Attribute: (2000) (USA) (TV)

  • Production Companies - Add
    • Company: Hortus Ltd. [us]

  • Writers - Add
    • Name: 101, Garden Style

    • Name: St. Louis, Exploring

    • Name: Thanks, Giving Many

    • Name: Retreat, Holidays at Garden Home

    • Name: Give, It's Better to

    • Name: City, On the Road in Kansas

    • Name: All, Art for

    • Name: Problem, Meet Solution

    • Name: Bloom, In Full

    • Name: Greatest, Latest and

  • Producers - Add
    • Name: 101, Garden Style
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: St. Louis, Exploring
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Thanks, Giving Many
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Retreat, Holidays at Garden Home
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Give, It's Better to
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: City, On the Road in Kansas
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: All, Art for
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Problem, Meet Solution
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Bloom, In Full
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Greatest, Latest and
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Escapes, Everyday
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Kids, It's All About the
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Chicago, Discovering
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Play, Fowl
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Herbology
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Green, Going
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Connecticut, Connect With
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Making, History in the
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Water, Just Add
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Blues, Getting the
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Fundamentals
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Touches, Finishing
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Try, Give it a
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Deep, Roots Run
      Occupation: producer

    • Name: Hospitality, Southern
      Occupation: producer

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    • Time: 21

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    • Text: P Allen Smith takes viewers on a horticultural journey through gardens around the country and to his home in Arkansas. He teaches how to plant, care for and design with plants of all kinds.
      Author: Nikki Bonner

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    • Text: In each episode, P. Allen Smith provides tips for growing all types of plants. From fruits and vegetables to flowers and herbs, Allen shows viewers how to get the most from their garden. He shares ideas for growing in small spaces, amending the soil, designing your landscape and cooking what you grow. He does this from his Garden Home Retreat in Arkansas and from various locations across the country.
      Author: Nikki Bonner

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Nikki: I see some problems with your submission. Most of them have to do with the writers' and producers' names.

What you have listed above implies that you have writers and producers on this show whose names are Garden Style 101, Exploring St. Louis, Giving Many Thanks, and Holidays at Garden Home Retreats, among others. My guess is that those are the titles of various episodes of this series, not the names of people. None of the writer and producer names look like names for people.

In order to submit episodes to a series, first the series must be listed in the database as a series. Once the series is listed, there will be an "Add episode" button on the series page that you can click. That will bring up the form to add an episode, where the Episode Title would be entered. You would also enter the original air date and/or the episode number if those are known.

A few other issues I would like to comment on:
  • There are two other P. Allen Smith series already listed in the database: "P. Allen Smith Gardens" (2000) and "P. Allen Smith's Garden Home" (2014). Can you confirm that this series is a different series from those two already listed?
  • If one series changes its title over its years on the air, the original title should normally be the one used as the main title on IMDb. The changed title can be submitted as an alternate title.
  • There is no Miscellaneous Link provided in this submission, which usually is expected. If you can provide links to one or more articles about this series from the web sites of newspapers, magazines, or other respected independent web sites, that will facilitate getting the series accepted.
  • The year for this series is given as 2000, yet the Release Date is 17 November 2011. If this is a series from 2000, it should have a 2000 release date, and if it is a series from 2011, it should be listed with 2011 as its year (and the distributor's year should also be given as 2011).
  • Since you will not be submitting the same writers and producers if you re-submit this series to IMDb,  you will need to submit at least 3 other major personnel. You should certainly submit P. Allen Smith to the Cast section (presumably with the character name Himself - Host), and you indicated that you are a "producer/director/writer" for this show, so presumably you would want to submit yourself in your appropriate occupation, among others.
I hope this helps. Good luck!
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So there are 3 shows - Garden Style, Garden Home and Garden to Table. Garden Style used to be called "P Allen Smith Gardens" until 2011 (the year I came on board it changed names. So how do i go about showing a name change. On the episode list, I am both the writer and producer. So I must've gotten confused about how to enter an episode listing vs a credit. I've tried to submit the link to pallensmith.com several times, but it keeps getting flagged as not valid. Any suggestions on that?
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Nikki: To indicate a change in the series title for the show formerly known as "P. Allen Smith Gardens", go to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0402687/releaseinfo. Click "Edit page".

On the next screen, on the Alternate Titles line, select "Add 1 item". Click "Continue".

On the next screen, I would recommend entering the following:
For AKA: "Garden Style" (2011)
For Country/Language: USA
For Attribute: new title

Click "Re-check these updates". On the next screen, your data should appear with a green background, and you should be able to click "Submit these updates".

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When you submit a new episode, after you get past the screen where you enter the episode title, episode number, and/or airdate, you will have the opportunity to submit the writer, producer, cast, and other credits for that episode.

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I am not sure what could be going wrong with the link to pallensmith.com. If you could post a screen shot showing what happens when you try to submit it and it gets flagged as not valid, that would make it easier to figure out the problem.
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* Important: Are you submitting links to help us verify a new title? 


Please submit your title with one or more of the following working direct link(s) to a third party site:

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Nikki: What description have you submitted for that link? And in what section of the form are you submitting it?
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I submitted it both as a miscellaneous link and as a primary link with the description "Link to playlist for full episodes"
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I just kept clicking on the "I understand, submit anyway" and it looks like it went through...fingers crossed. :-)