I have been wrongly credited on Motherland as a producer. I've reported it and nothing has happened. Why?

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Jenny Frayn

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How did you report it?
Have you made a submission to remove your name?
That’s usually the best way, especially if you provide a convincing explanation of why it should be done

Steve
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Jenny Frayn

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Thank you for replying. I have made three submissions over a number of months but with no luck. I don't know how to provide a convincing explanation other than I didn't do it....I wish I had been involved in Motherland as it was a great show but I don't want it to seem I'm deliberately misleading anyone by having it on my page so I am keen it should be taken off.  Any suggestions about how to be more convincing would be gratefully received. 
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What can I say?

It’s very difficult to prove a negative and to prove that you didn’t do something.

It helps if you can show that you were doing something else at the time or that you have never worked with the other people listed as producer for that episode, or for the production companies involved.

But the best way would be to get a listing of the credits for that episode and to show that you didn’t get an on-screen credit for it.

Steve
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I will try both. I really appreciate your help. Thank you so much.
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Probably the most common reason for these type of errors is that somewhere is the person with the same name (or very similar, at least).

Is it possible to check the credits of that Motherland episode?
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I think I have quite an uncommon surname but just in case I've purchased the series on Amazon and have checked the credits for episode three (which imdb says I produced) and the sole producer credited is Richard Boden - who produced all the episodes - so I'm baffled. I will try to do a screen grab and provide that to imdb as evidence....Thank you for your help.
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Not sure why your name is listed in the IMDb credits, but screenshots of the actual credits should clear this issue and your name eventually removed.
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Just checked and I'm afraid you're listed as producer for Motherland on staffmeup.com, cinemaparadiso.co.uk, and some Russian sites. Yikes!
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Russian sites? Let me guess, Kinopoisk? A very badly made plagiarism of IMDb's concept albeit with less information and information that is there being inconsistent and awfully formatted.  
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You are absolutely correct, Nikolay. I'm not going to link it but a search for "Jenny Krayn" Motherland will show up all the links. I know they're getting the info from IMDb but the longer her incorrect info stays here, the more sites that will proliferate it.
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Many of those sites probably just ”mirror” the IMDb info.
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I’m sure that’s true, but it still leaves Jenny with false info out there even if/when it gets corrected on IMDb. Of course, far fewer people will see it, but it’s still there. Maybe she can get those sites to take it off - it might be worth a try.
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Hi Jenny -

If you reviewed the episode and are certain that your name wasn't credited on-screen, please post a screen grab of the evidence here and our staff can take a look.  Thanks!
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Hi Michelle,

Imdb says I produced the third episode of Motherland and here is a screen grab from the third episode to show that Richard Boden produced it - as he did the whole series. I don't know how to illustrate it more clearly than that. 

I am grateful to you for getting back to me but can I say just how very frustrating I've found trying to correct this error? I am certain that I could not have been credited as I had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the production. There could be no possible reason for me to deny having been involved in what was an excellent series other than I was not involved. I just don't understand why it's taken months of me contacting your organisation and ultimately having to go onto a public forum to get someone from Imdb to get back to me.

I often use Imdb to check someone's credits and it's alarming to realise that it is not accurate and that it is very hard to correct any mistakes. It has undermined my confidence in the website and I hope there can be some way of making it more responsive to the feedback of people who are listed on it.

I very much hope that you will now take the Motherland credit off my page. Please.

Yours,

Jenny

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Jenny, often the fastest way (which is probably not that ”fast” in the first place) to correct something is the screenshots of the actual credits. Either people provide proof that they’re credited - or that they’re not (like in your case). It’s very, very common that people try to correct/delete something, but doesn’t provide any proof (for various reasons). Many times in those cases the submission will be rejected.

And no, IMDb data editors won’t e-mail to people that it’s rejected. Some have ”Track contribution” (Your account => View your contributions => Update history) option in your update history (like when submitting a new title to IMDb), but many times that’s not an option. Resending the same info multiple times won’t help - people need to provide more proof if it’s originally rejected and only after that resend it (often people say that they’ve been trying ”weeks” or even ”months” to correct something, but doesn’t really say that did they originally provide any proof, did they do any updates after it was originally rejected, do they have access to the screenshots etc).

But - it’s true that if people don’t have access to the actual program (and therefore can’t provide screenshots), they probably have much harder time providing enough proof - especially if some name needs to be removed (meaning, that it’s probably easier to move the credit under some other person, or just correct the occupation or character name/order).
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Hi Jenny -

Thanks for posting the screen grab, the credit corrections you reported have now been approved and the changes should be live on the site shortly.  Cheers!
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Jenny Frayn

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Brilliant! Thank you. And thank you to everyone else who gave me advice.