Genre List Manager is at it again!

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Well... the Genre List Manager is at it again, making decisions to deny Genre submissions that are totally accurate.  Case in Point:
170728-005717-4410002017-07-28 00:57:17Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets (2017)
Keywords -  25 items added, 2 items deleted
Genres -  1 item added
The relationship between Valerian (Dave DeHaan) and Laureline (Cara Delevinge) is totally a love story that even includes a marriage proposal and happy ending.  Has the Genre List Manager seen the film, or read the comic book on which it is based?
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Phil Boroff

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Hi Phil -

The Romance Genre is used subjectively, so if "Romance' doesn't describe the movie wholly, but rather only certain scenes or a subplot, then it should be submitted as a keyword instead.  
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Phil, I've seen this film (can't recommend it though I'm afraid, but that's a different matter), but I don't see how it fits within IMDb's definition of Romance:
Should contain numerous inter-related scenes of a character and their personal life with emphasis on emotional attachment or involvement with other characters, especially those characterized by a high level of purity and devotion. Note: Reminder, as with all genres if this does not describe the movie wholly, but only certain scenes or a subplot, then it should be submitted as a keyword instead
To me, the romance part of the film is just a subplot of the film and, according to IMDb's definition, it shouldn't be a keyword in those cases. Also, I didn't see "numerous inter-related scenes of a character and their personal life with emphasis on emotional attachment or involvement with other characters". I saw only a handful of scenes in which Valerian says he likes a girl and wants to marry her. Just a few scenes, nothing more. And these scenes, to me at least, didn't show any emphasis on emotional attachment and they sure as heck weren't "characterized by a high level of purity and devotion". Although this last part is probably due to the fact that Valerian is as flat a character as they come :)
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The relationship is NOT a subplot, but runs throughout the entire film.  The romantic attraction between the two characters provokes the action, in almost a competitive way.

IMDb's Romance genre definition is so obtuse and subjective that almost ALL of the titles that currently have this genre could  "subjectively" be deleted.

 Titles, especially contemporary ones, are. rarely "purely" one genre or another, but a combination of at least two and often several genres  Business-wise, it's called appealing to a larger audience to get more box office.
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Well, I guess we have to agree to disagree on it being a subplot or not.
Apart from that, if you feel the definition IMDb uses for Romance, you can always suggest a new one. Perhaps you can convince IMDb to change it. It has been done in the past.
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I did much work in the past on genre definitions, but guess I've just had it.  Too many recent decisions have been so subjective that they ignore previous policy discussions, perhaps because of an ongoing turnover in an unaware staff.  There have particularly been many questionable decisions regarding the Romance genre.  

If you want to do the database a service, work on cleaning up the Family genre, which has many, many wrong titles since someone (many ones) think that anything to do with a Family deserves that genre.

I will offer no further genre submissions other than with a new title.  Good luck
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Hi Phil -

Just to reiterate what Marco and I posted above, if the Romance in the film is more of a sub-plot then it wouldn't be eligible to be listed under "Romance", our editors have also determined that this genre doesn't meet the guidelines for this title, you can review our Genre guidelines here

If you have suggestions for other genres you are welcome to post those suggestions here in the community, however, regarding our current policy for the Romance genre, we will not be changing this policy.

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