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It does not matter if you BELIEVE the information to be correct. In Europe there are strict privacy laws. THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS YOURS

You have info about a film made in 1974 which has my name in the credits as cinematographer.  I never heard of  this production and the credit is incorrect.  I asked you to remove it and you refused.  I cannot prove it is incorrect because the production company no longer exists.  As it is in anyway from 1974, my request for removal is sufficient to have it removed. Even if the error is not yours but the production company's. It is detrimental to my personal and professional reputation.

YOU ARE NOT THE ARBITER OF THE TRUTH. In Europe the right to PRIVACY takes precedence and is taken very seriously. 

And publishing the names of minors without parental authorisation is irresponsible and legally questionable.

You people are a disgrace!  You think integrity is the name of a Korean car import.

Roy D. Brewington

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: Anyone want to start a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT against IMDb?.
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Hello Roy,
Which film would that be then? Which name?
I don't see any credits for Roy Drewington

    Steve
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Hi Steve,


Roy Brewington, Cinematography 'Hot Girls' 1974

Every time someone google's me it is the first google entry. It kills all further interest from the the enquirer.
 They look no further. 
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That's the only Roy Brewington listed on the IMDb that I can see, the one who was the cinematographer on The Hot Girls (1974).
It probably wasn't you but was someone else with the same name.

If you want to be listed on the IMDb then you need to get some on-screen credits in a film or a TV show.
That's the troble with Google, It doesn't differentiate between multiple people with the same name
    Steve
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I DO NOT WANT TO BE LISTED ON IMDb that's the issue here!
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Err, you aren't. Certainly not as Roy Brewington  :)
Someone else with the same names is.

    Steve
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I have been unable to locate any other Roy Brewington in the UK. Only in USA
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That doesn't mean that there aren't any. Just that you couldn't find them.
    Steve
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I was a relatively known photographer at that time and would  most like have heard of another with same name. Unusual name in UK. I think some one used my name as a fake name - it was apparently an illegal production.
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You'll have to get hold of a copy of The Hot Girls (1974) and see if "a" Roy Brewington was credited on it as cinematographer (or as anything else).
If you can get a copy of the credit roll from that film then that should be enough evidence to get the IMDb to change it.


You (or someone of that name) is also listed on the BFI site. You'll have to chase down all such connections.

    Steve
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Steve,
I wish it were like that.  IMDb say the name Roy Brewington IS listed in the credits therefore they cannot remove it from their website!
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I have contacted BFI.  They changed the listing to 'Actor'! So now I was an actor in what sounds like a porno film! What its doing at the BFI  I have no idea!
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No, they say that A Roy Brewington was listed in the credits. The IMDb is a worldwide database. Without further information you can't say where anyone is from
    Steve
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I even contacted google who are required by law to remove such listings.  Got an automated reply and no further action!
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Do Google have to obey European laws?
    Steve
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Hello, Roy. 

Has it ever occurred to you that you are not the only human being with that exact name? Unfortunately, it happens a lot and everywhere. I'm not that eager to publish poetry, for example, because there is a poet of the same exact name, who is all over the place. 

Considering that The Hot Girls (1974) is, seemingly, a pornographic movie, your frustration is understandable, but that's not you who is listed, but a complete namesake, over whose credits you have no legal power whatsoever. It is even more frustrating considering it was a pseudonym, but it happens all the time in business. Oh, and safe for a few notable exceptions there is no such thing as illegal production. If something was filmed and not completely prohibited, it is an existing movie, 

The only thing you can do about that that I'm aware of is to make a trivia entry on that Roy Brewington saying that he is not realted in any way to a known photographer of the same name who just happens to be you. Also, considering this page (if it is about you) you are a documentary filmmaker and you should have a separate page on IMDb, which will be created as soon as anyone will stumble upon your movies. Regardless of whether you want this, or not, because IMDb is not a marketing website or social network it is a database of existing media and information about it. I'd say it is in your interest to add that or supervise the addition yourself, in order for someone to not actually do a page and combine that other Roy with you.      
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IMDb are subject to the same EU privacy regs.
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I do agree with you, even though we are still waiting to know to what extent it will abide by GDPR.
But I am not sure it will help you, if you name was used and credited as a pseudo.
What Nikolay suggests above may turn out to be the best workaround.
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There's no argument about that. But are Google (who are a totally different organisation)?
    Steve
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Yes I think it is, but I think I read that the information must be withdrawn only from being viewed in the required territory (to confirmed)
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Thanks for jumping into the discussion Nikolay.  There are several Roy Brewington's in USA where my family is from. I know with 99.99 % certainty none were in the UK in 1974 working in the fil industry.

In 1974 films of that nature were prohibited.

I do not know how I can make any comment on the IMDb page. There are of course legitimate entries on google as you must have seen but the IMDb and BFI listings are high on googles page ranking because they are 'authority' sites.
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Well, as the story goes, prohibiting any kind of movies only makes these movies even more relevant for history as examples of that prohibition. UK censorship boards made quite a few failed attempts like this, including their infamous "Video Nasties" initiative, which basically made every single movie out of that list more known and a bit more relevant, regardless of their popularity.

Plus, database by its nature lists every kind of movie production, regardless of whether it was in any way legal or not. Case in point I added myself: Max Headroom Pirating Incident (1987), an illegal pirate television live broadcast. 

You may add the trivia entry by pressing "Edit page", then choosing "Trivia" and "Add 1 item". If you encounter any problem with submitting the trivia item or formatting of one, let us know. 
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Hi Vincent, You must be somewhat of an expert on the subject judging by your post history. I am amazed that this could happen. It just suddenly came to my attention when someone google'd my and told me about it.  They said 'Roy, get this removed!'
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I'd say that many people don't understand how Internet works, unfortunately. The saddest part is that some of these people are in charge of human resources and hiring people. Often they either consider film business at a whole as little more then unserious and unreliable profession, a ghetto of sorts or (which is worse) could easily confuse people for their namesakes in the industry, including porn pseudonyms. I would say it is a very serious social issue which should be first and foremost changed on the level of common knowledge. I'm tempted to make a video essay on that subject, but considering how my previous video essay on IMDb turned out to be weird and unnerving, I'm afraid I might not be good enough at explaining and spreading the word.
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Nikolay,

I thank you greatly for your help. I will do that, of course, but wonder if it will make difference, given today\s short attention spans!

May I ask what is your connection to IMDb

Thanks so much

Roy
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You're welcome, Roy. 

I am merely a concerned longtime contributor for the website, with a "Champion" status, which gives me certain small additional methods to work. Last year, experiencing a wave of vandalism towards my own pages I noticed that there are many small issues I could help with which could free staff's time for something more important and serious. So I've started to do that in January.