Correct Use of (Credit Only)?

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A contributor submits future episodes of Fox News Channel’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight:” about a week in advance and always includes the host credit for Tucker Carlson, with cast order #1. Whenever a there is a guest host, this submitter adds a (credit only) attribute for Tucker Carlson and adds the guest host with order #2.

Is this a proper use of the (credit only) attribute? The only crediting of Tucker Carlson’s name is in the series title. There is never a printed list of cast (or crew) credits. This is the case for most political talk shows. Whatever your answer, it should be added to the guidelines for the use of this cast attribute. Thanx.


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This is the Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson
Jay Leno was substituting as Host.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1068596/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
Johnny Carson is nowhere to be found in the Cast Listing.
If this past practice, you would think the same applies today.



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Interesting question. If Tucker Carlson is only mentioned in the series title (and not in the actual opening credits etc), the above example is probably correct. The ”(credit only)” attribute applies to actual credits (or on-screen captions/spoken introductions), not to the title.
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submits future episodes of Fox News Channel’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight:” about a week in advance and always includes the host credit for Tucker Carlson, with cast order #1.

The reason I came to the conclusion I arrived at was the poster said "The Series" not the "Actor/Himself" page.
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As noted in the above image, Johnny Carson's name is not listed. However, in his filmography, Carson is listed on other "Tonight Show" episode pages with the (Credit Only) attribute.

Yes, this is an interesting question.
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To be fair, in borderline cases like documentaries, talk shows et cetera oral announcement of full or shortened name is considered a credit. As with "Alfred Hitchcock Presents", "Tucker Carlson Tonight" is both a title AND a credit, so it should be probably added that way.  

However I am also very much interested in what official policy is regarding that, so let's wait for staff to clarify.
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moodri, he's still not credited in traditional sense, though, so that's partially relevant as an example: if Alfred Hitchcock's credit and introduction can be derived from title (also a case for many music videos, by the way), so can be Tucker Carlson's and therefore if the title is there it might be considered a case deserving "(credit only)" attribute. 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGnWkyY-beU
This is an intro mentioning Carson with a photo collage of Images of Carson with Jay Leno as Guest host. Carson has no uncredited credit.
I'm interested to see what IMDb says too Nikolay.
Cheers
Happy New Year!

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To be fair, first title seems to say "The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson" (and the latter part could be considered a credits), but I might be wrong considering the quality.

Happy New Year to you, as well!  
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His name only appears in the Name title. Not as a credit. It is Identical to the Tucker Carlson Tonight example. There are no opening credits just an opening title. On the Carson show his name is said by Doc Severinson who then says tonight's guest host: Jay Leno.
This will be an Interesting answer.
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I watch almost all of Carson from age 7 in 62 till he went off the air 30 years later.
I'm sure I have seen at least 3000 Shows.
I do a really good "Art Fern" Impression, The TeaTime Matinee announcer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKY8A8UZoXI

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Hi all,

Good question, I think that Nikolay has it right there, the (credit only) attribute is valid in cases such as these.

Regards,
Will 
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Thanks again
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Will,

Thanks for clarifying this. I would add something like this to the guideline for the (credit only) attribute:

"This includes news/talk/entertainment series with a person’s name in the title (e.g., “The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson” (tt0055708), “Tucker Carlson Tonight” (tt6238614)), when a guest host appears."
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That was fast!
Cheers
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Many thanks, Will.