Conflation of two actors: a deceased Canadian and me both named Michael Wade. How can this be corrected?

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I am an English actor named Michael Wade. On your actors listings you have a Canadian Michael Wade who died in 2004. Several of the credits attributed to him are actually my credits, including Lockwood, the lead character in the 'Auton' trilogy, which you say he is best known for! Also 'Cash in Hand', 'A Dance to the Music of Time', 'Thin Ice', 'A Man For All Seasons', and 'Programa do Jô' are mine. Listed under Other Works, The 'Vortigern' credit is also mine and I have other screen credits, two of which are for 2015, that I would like to give you, as well as many for Other Works. I have tried to fill in your online forms, but they are too complicated for me to understand and I keep having to start all over again. Could you please help me rectify this situation and set up my own IMDb listing? I have been in touch with Wikipedia as they have the same errors and they are looking into it. Most of the credits wrongly attributed to the Canadian Michael Wade can easily be verified as mine by viewing my showreel on: www.vimeo.com/michaelwade  or by googling 'Jô Soares Michael Wade'. Jô Soares is the great Brazilian chat show host, so most of the interview is in Portuguese, but it does show some of my work. I look forward to your reply. Sincerely, Michael Wade.
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Thanks, Niall. 

Now that Michael Wade (I)'s page has been cleaned up, I have some advice for him as to how to get his credits for My Hindu Friend and England, My England onto his page.

Michael: Go to the page of Michael Wade (XVI) at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7134806/. Click "Edit page".

On the next screen, on the Name Correction or Merge line, select "Add correction". Scroll down and click "Continue".

On the next screen, there will be a blank line in which to enter the corrected name. Enter it as:
Wade, Michael (I)

Uncheck the box labeled "Preserve previous name on existing credits. i.e. '(as Michael Wade)'". It doesn't apply in this case.

In the Explanation box, enter something like "I am Michael Wade (I), and the Michael Wade (XVI) page is a duplicate entry for me. All credits on both the Michael Wade (I) and (XVI) pages are mine, and so these pages should be merged." Click "Check these updates".

On the next screen, you will get a warning that says, "You are about to merge two separate name pages into one. Are you sure you want to merge this person with Wade, Michael (I)? ..." That's what you want, so check the box marked "Warning understood, go ahead anyway." Click "Re-check these updates".

On the next screen, your data should appear with a green background, and you should be able to click "Submit these updates".

Next, go to the page of Michael John Wade at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0905485/. Click "Edit page".

On the next screen, on the Name Correction or Merge line, select "Add correction". Scroll down and click "Continue".

On the next screen, there will be a blank line in which to enter the corrected name. Enter it as:
Wade, Michael (I)

This time, however, make sure the box labeled "Preserve previous name on existing credits. i.e. '(as Michael John Wade)'" is checked. This will indicate that for England, My England, you were indeed credited using the middle name John.

In the Explanation box, enter something like "I am Michael Wade (I), and Michael John Wade is a duplicate entry for me. I have used the middle name John in the past, including on the film 'England, My England' (1995) as indicated here, but I no longer use a middle name. All credits on both pages are mine, and so these two name pages should be merged." Click "Check these updates".

On the next screen, you will get a warning that says, "You are about to merge two separate name pages into one. Are you sure you want to merge this person with Wade, Michael (I)? ..." That's what you want, so check the box marked "Warning understood, go ahead anyway." Click "Re-check these updates".

On the next screen, your data should appear with a green background, and you should be able to click "Submit these updates".

Allow a few days for these two name merges to go through. Good luck!
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OK, many thanks. I will try to get time to do this if not today then tomorrow. As already stated earlier in this thread, I have other credits which for some reason have never appeared on IMDb. Can we add these after the above has been done? And we seem to have lost the Vortigern 'Other Work' credit to which I would like to add one more. Will this also be possible? Sincerly, Michael.
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Michael: You can go ahead now and submit your other credits which have not appeared on IMDb before; you don't need to wait for anything else, because now the Michael Wade (I) page contains only your data and nobody else's.

If the film or television show is already listed in IMDb, go to its page, click "Edit page", and then on the next page select to "Add 1 credit" to the Cast or other department in which you worked. Scroll down and click "Continue", and the process should be reasonably self-explanatory from there.

If you are dealing with a television episode that is not listed in IMDb, but the series of which it is a part is listed, go to the main page for the series and click "Add episode". On the next screen, you will be required to provide at least one of the following pieces of information: the episode title, the original airdate, or the episode number (for example, the first episode of the second season would be episode number 2.1). Again, the process should be reasonably self-explanatory from there.

If you are dealing with a film or other title that is not listed in IMDb at all, it will have to be submitted using the New Title form that begins at https://contribute.imdb.com/updates?update=title and continues on succeeding screens.

Finally, your appearance in the play Vortigern is indeed listed in your Other Works at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0905482/otherworks. You can go ahead and submit any other relevant Other Works as appropriate.

 If you run into problems, feel free to come back here and provide all the details.
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Dear Champion, I'm blown away by the trouble you continue to take on my behalf. Many thanks. I have successfully requested the merging of the 'My Hindu Friend' (Michael Wade XVI) and 'England my England' (Michael John Wade) pages by following your instructions. Also I updated the Other Work page, though stupidly I did two credits separately when I could have done 2 items on the same update. I hope that won't cause any confusion. They are 'Mutabilitie' (2000) and 'Under Milk Wood' (1992). The latter, directed by and starring Anthony Hopkins with music by George Martin, was also filmed but mysteriously disappeared almost without trace.The only reference to it that I can find on IMDb is a South Bank Show clip wrongly dated 1988 with a much curtailed cast list. There is an Under Milk Wood entry dated 1992, but it's the production which starred Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor, so it is wrongly dated. For these reasons I couldn't enter it on my film credits.

I also ran into trouble with my other credits which have not appeared on IMDb before. In the 2015 film 'Little Secret' aka 'Pequeno Segredo', directed by David Schurmann, to be released this year I play Will, but there is not a full cast list yet. In Hector Babenco's 2007 film 'The Past' aka 'El Pasado' I play the English Economist, but again there is no full cast list. In the 2002 film 'The Great Dome Robbery', directed by Gabriel Range, I play Barker. Again no full cast list. In the 1993-1994 ITV series 'Brighton Belles', directed by James Cellan Jones I play Mark. Again no full cast list. In the 1997 Channel Four film 'The Last Witch' I play Brigadier Firebrace. There is no mention of it on IMDB. In the the 1990 HTV films 'Corridors of Power', 'Fight for Manod' and 'Second Generation', all directed by Karl Francis, I play CS Lewis, Needham and Henderson respectively. Again there is no mention of any of these on IMDb.

I hesitate to say this after all you've done, but I hope you can help! Sincerely, Michael.
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Michael: When you say "there is not a full cast list yet", I assume you mean that IMDb does not have the full cast listed yet. The full cast lists must exist already, at least for the released projects, even if not all the cast members have been listed on IMDb.

So for the projects Pequeno segredo, El pasado, and The Great Dome Robbery, you will follow the same procedure for each of those titles. Go to the IMDb page for that title and click "Edit page".

On the next screen, on the Cast line, select "Add 1 credit". Scroll down and click "Continue".

On the next screen, you will be able to enter your credit. In the Name box, enter your name as:
Wade, Michael (I)

The radio button for "actor" should already be selected by default, but make sure that button is indeed selected (instead of "actress").

In the Character box, enter your character name. Normally you would provide the character name exactly as it appears in the credits of the film, unless there is a really good reason not to do so. (See https://contribute.imdb.com/updates/guide/characters.)

Normally you would leave the Attribute box blank. However, if you were credited by some name other than "Michael Wade" in that particular title, you would indicate that with an attribute in that box, such as the following:
(as Michael John Wade)
for a film where you happened to be credited using that middle name. If your name didn't appear in the credits at all, you would put (uncredited) in the Attribute box.

For the Order box, you would enter the number of the order in which your name was listed in the credits of the film. See https://contribute.imdb.com/updates/guide/order for the rules on that. If you don't know what order your name appeared in the credits and can't find out, you can leave the Order box blank.

Then click "Check these updates". If all goes well, your data should appear on the next screen with a green background, and you should be able to click "Submit these updates".

For "Brighton Belles", the process will be very similar, except that you will need to add your credit to the specific episode(s) in which you appeared (not the main page for the series). See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105961/episodes?year=1993 and http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105961/episodes?year=1994. Go to the appropriate episode page and follow the same procedure as above to add your credit to the cast of each episode in which you appeared.
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In the 1997 Channel Four film 'The Last Witch' I play Brigadier Firebrace. There is no mention of it on IMDB. In the the 1990 HTV films 'Corridors of Power', 'Fight for Manod' and 'Second Generation', all directed by Karl Francis, I play CS Lewis, Needham and Henderson respectively. Again there is no mention of any of these on IMDb.
These are going to be more difficult to get added to IMDb, because I am having a hard time finding information about them. For example, BFI Screenonline's list of Karl Francis's credits does not include any of the titles you refer to as having been directed by him (http://www.screenonline.org.uk/people/id/554566/credits.html). 

The first thing to do is to confirm whether these films are separate titles or perhaps part of an anthology series along the lines of "BBC2 Play of the Week" (I realize these films were not on the BBC networks, I am just using that as an example). If they were part of an anthology series that is already listed in IMDb, then they will be much easier to get added to IMDb.

Can you find any links to articles or web pages that mention these films being broadcast? If we can find some documentation, we may be able to make some more progress with these titles.
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Thanks again. Yes that is what I meant about the cast lists. I think I'll have to settle for Under Milk Wood on my Other Work Credits . It's weird that it's virtually untraceable as the cast alone is amazing. I can't remember even the name of the director of The Last Witch so I'll give up on that one too.

After I wrote my last message to you I remembered that the Karl Francis films, though separately listed on my CV, did indeed comprise three parts of one film, the name of which has been omitted and I can't remember it. I also couldn't find it in Karl's filmography so I emailed him. If I get clearer information from him I can add them later. I will now follow your instructions for the other four. Michael.
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All done Champion! For Brighton Belles, after several rejections because I hadn't discovered how IMDb lists the episodes I eventually got it right  - The Break-In (#2.2) but the first time I did the update I forgot to insert the name of my character (Mark), not realising that it goes in the same (character) box as the episode, but it was not rejected. When I realised my omission I did it again, this time inserting Mark in the box and it also was not rejected.I hope this won't cause confusion.

Provided this all goes through alright I think I'll call it a day! I wish I could buy you lunch, but I suspect we're on different continents. Yours most gratefully, Michael.
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Michael: I am going to go ahead and submit the correction for your "Brighton Belles" character name, because it looks like something went wrong along the way. Right now you are listed as playing a character named "The Break-In (#2.2)" rather than "Mark".

Here is what should have happened for submitting your credit for that episode, which you will need to know if you have any other TV episode credits. You would go to the episode list for the series (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105961/episodes?year=1994), find your episode, and click on that. That would take you to the episode page, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0945726/. You would then click "Edit page".

On the next screen, you would select "Add 1 credit" on the Cast line, scroll down and click "Continue".

And that will take you to a page that looks something like this:



Notice that at the top of the page, it already identifies the episode to which you are adding a credit (Updating Information for "Brighton Belles" (1993) {The Break-In (#2.2)}). So you don't need to type that episode title or episode number again anywhere in the submission. Instead, you just have to insert the actor's name, the character name, the attribute (if applicable), and the order number (if known), just as if you were adding an actor credit to a movie.

But as I said, I will submit the correction to change your character name to "Mark" myself.

Fortunately, it looks like your credits for The Great Dome RobberyEl pasado, and Pequeno segredo have been added correctly. So, if you have other credits to add later, hopefully you should be able to get those taken care of.

If you find that you need to add a program that is not listed in the database at all, that can be done, using the form which begins at https://contribute.imdb.com/updates?update=title and continues on succeeding screens. But I would recommend gathering together as much information you can about the program before you start to work on that form. You can always come back here and ask about that when you need to.

Good luck!
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Champion. Once again many thanks! I've just looked myself up and we're nearly there, but the 'My Hindu Friend' Dr Feffer credit has not appeared yet, though I'm sure I did it correctly when I requested it to be merged from the Michael Wade XVI page. Similarly, the 'England My England' Lord Clifford credit still hasn't been merged from the Michael John Wade page. I suppose these take a bit longer so I'll wait and see. I haven't had a reply from Karl Francis yet but I can add those credits on later if I get the right info. Yours, Michael.
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Dear Champoin. Thanks for correcting Brighton Belles. My Hindu Friend and England my England are at last on my page. Karl Francis has not replied so I'll let that one go. One last thing. Am I right in thinking that if my name appears against my character's when credits roll at the end of a film, even if it doesn't appear with the leads at the beginning, then that's a credit? Because I'm sure my name does appear at the end of A Man For All Seasons. It's a detail but as it's such an important film it irks me! But I will check. Sincerely, Michael.
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MW, I'll try to take a tiny bit of the load off gromit82, who has helped me often. Yes, if the credit appears on screen, that's all you need -- doesn't matter if it's at the beginning, at the end, in the middle, upside down, in purple, etc. If you worked on a film but did not get credit on screen, you can still get added on IMDb, but the procedure is more complicated.
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OK Edward. On the IMDb cast list for A Man For All Seasons it says I and many othres are uncredited. I'll check that my credit does indeed appear on the DVD and then get it corrected on IMDb. Thanks so much. MW.
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Michael: Yes, Edward has it correct -- whether your name appears in the opening credits or the closing credits, that would still count as credited rather than uncredited.

I notice another issue with the credits of A Man for All Seasons. At http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060665/fullcredits you will see that there are two different "Michael Wade"s listed as playing 2nd servant / 2nd Young Man -- yourself and Michael Wade (III), whose other credits can be seen at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0905484/.

Assuming that Michael Wade (III) has nothing to do with you, you should be able to delete his credit from A Man for All Seasons by doing the following:

Go to the page for the film at http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060665/. Click "Edit page".

On the next screen, on the Cast line, select "Correct/Delete". Scroll down and click "Continue".

On the next screen, select "Delete" in the menu to the left of the incorrect person, Michael Wade (III). Click "Check these updates".

On the next screen, you will be asked to provide an explanation. You can write something like "I am Michael Wade (I), and I played the role of 2nd servant/2nd Young Man in "A Man for All Seasons". I am already listed in the cast list for the film as playing the role, but there is a duplicate entry in the cast list which says that Michael Wade (III) played the role as well. The role of 2nd servant/2nd Young Man was played only by Michael Wade (I), and thus the credit for Michael Wade (III) should be deleted for the same role." Click "Re-check these updates".

On the next screen, your data should appear with a green background, and you should be able to click "Submit these updates".

By the way, I have never seen A Man for All Seasons, but I probably should. Mark R. Leeper, an Internet critic I respect, ranks it as one of his favorite films of all time.

In any event, I'm glad to see that your other credits have gotten on to your page. If you ever get enough information to try to submit the Karl Francis project to IMDb, and you need help with that, I would recommend starting a separate thread here. That would be a fairly different issue from the problem that you were dealing with at the start of this thread.

Good luck!
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Dear Champion. Many thanks again. I will certainly correct the M For All S double credit but before I do I want to borrow or buy the DVD and check the end credits because I'm not certain that they describe my two parts in that way. I strongly recommend it. I saw it on TV recently and it has hardly aged. It was a great privilege to.be in it. Vanessa Redgrave wanted to be in it so much that even she accepted a non-speaking part. Very best regards. Michael.

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