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Due to Disagreement they changed all my credits to Uncredited. I'm receiving residuals for these and some terrible person hiding behind a computer changed my credits that were up for YEARS. This originally started when I asked to have a credit removed a past manager put me in for. Now they are hurting my career and I'm seeking justice
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Mark

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If you can prove your accreditation, by way of a screen grab, or screenshot, then go to the title or titles that have been altered and reverse it by way of the Edit Button at the bottom of the titles page. Any registered user can add remove or correct data here. If you need further help. There are a lot of people here, both users like you, and I and Administrators that can help you. Read this Correcting existing data it might help you understand better.


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I shouldn't have to understand when credits that has been up for years were turned into uncredited because of a disagreement about another issue. Now I gave to jump through hoops to correct thier intentional harm? I'm calling my lawyers tomorrow.
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Jeorj Euler

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Hi, Mark Kratzer. Why post here first and contact your attorneys second, rather than the reverse order of doing things?
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Mark

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No, the proper way is to post here first. I just learned about this site so If I can't get help here then I move on.
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Vincent Fournols

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Below, in another reply, you state that JamesMMM has zero idea what he is talking about concerning your matter.

Dare I say that you have zero idea what IMDb is about?
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No you can say that. the fact is there are so concerned about having information correct when they didn't take down two projects I wasn't even in. Then they changed to projects I was in and was credited for two uncredited now if you think that is any indication of a website that has any sort of validity then you can have your website.
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"They"?
Are you aware that IMDB is primarily a collaborative website and that any contributor (even me or you) can edit its data? And that the IMDb data reviewer cannot have the hand over the millions of data at stake?
Why don't you just correct the data the way you want it, if you have supporting evidences? Then the matter can be closed.
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Jeorj Euler

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Mark Kratzer, well, it is pointless to inform the world that you will be contacting your attorneys and when you plan to do so. If you were serious about this, you would have sought out legal counsel weeks ago and not bothered to mention it, or otherwise given the IMDb site authorities ample time to respond, before even mentioning lawyers.
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Mark

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And I'm getting residuals for these credits they changed after years of being up. This hurts my career and someone needs to be held responsible
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Jeorj Euler

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Mark Kratzer, in that case, somebody will be held responsible, but maybe not who is expected. We shall see.
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Mark

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Yes we shall see. Are you threating me?
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Jeorj Euler

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Mark Kratzer, the question is: Are you threatening IMDb?
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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/uncredited-credit-removed
What was this about?
Is it in reference to this?
You also posted this a few minutes ago on an unrelated post?
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https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/how-do-i-delete-my-imdb-account-2j2457egbd9gs



These people changed credits I get residuals for to Uncredited because of a dispute about a credit I wanted removed a manager added for me. Someone there made most of my credits appear Uncredited making me look like a fool. They are liable for hurting my career and I'm not going to take it.





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Ed Jones (XLIX)

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Lets calm down and fix your credits.
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Yes, then because I complained, they made my Important Things with Demetri Martin and 30 Rock Live credits Uncredited. I was a U5 for both of theses and they were up correctly for years, until I complained about another issue the two credits a dishonest manager put me in for that I wasn't even in. Then I get punished. Terrible.
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Punishment is not necessarily the intent behind the tragedy. To use an analogy, a person can file a complaint about wayward teenagers vandalizing in the work shed in his/her backyard, the police can show up to capture the vandals, and in turn, the police can file a complaint against the person who summoned the police in the first place on account of the structures in the backyard not being "up to code". The police are doing a service to their community, in both actions, and they are not to liable for anything.
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Oh please, do you know how many people have had problems with this site? The fact is IMDB is supposed to be factual information is the point.
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I don't see anybody publishing their stories in blogs or newspapers. So, Mark Kratzer, whatever it is that you intend to do, you will lose.
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Sounds like you need a new manager. Seriously you can fix this your self. Make the corrections as i described above. It will be reversed in a couple of days if you do it right. Correcting existing data
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Mark: The main thing that you need to confirm is that you actually had your name listed in the on-screen credits of those shows. Whether you received residual payments is not the issue -- it's only whether your name was in the credits on screen.

If your name was in the credits on screen, then you should be able to get your IMDb listings fixed and have the (uncredited) attribute removed for those roles.
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The four 'credits' showing as being for uncredited roles were showing as 'credited' roles last year. A few months ago you came on here complaining about not being able to delete two 'credits' that were on your name page as being uncredited roles. You began that thread by admitting that you had these extra roles in the two films but ended the thread by claiming you were not an extra in either of these two films. This change of position occurred immediately after you leanrt that being only extra roles would not get them deleted.

You also threatend to sue the IMDb within three days.

Yu have admitted that you have been fully aware of the content of your name page for years. This means that for years you have been aware that four acting roles have been on display, due to the actions of your 'manager', as 'credited' roles for which it was alleged your name appears on screen. Why did you allow this false information about yourself to remain on the IMDb for so long? I find your claim a few months ago that you wanted 'credits' to be removed becausde they were not factual to be rather disingenuous. In fact, I suspect that the two uncredited roles that were on display in 2017 (for Unbreakable (2000) and Jesus's Son (1999)) were also lsited as 'credited' roles at one time until someone discovered the information was untrue and requested their deletion.

You have complained that your credits have been chaged from credited roles to uncredited roles. Several people have asked if you have were credited but you seem to eb incapbale of admiting that they were uncredited. Instead, you have been moaning that this has happened because you were paid under a U5 contract for these roles, which in your head only places them as having eligibility to not be recorded as being uncredited.

Stating that you receive residual payments and a U5 cntract for this worjk in answere to the question "were you credited onscreen?" is a bit like being asked if you had shot someone and stating "I haven't got a knife" in response.


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You have Zero idea what your talking about. There were two projects not four. I was credited for Important Things and 30Rock Live. Then I check last night a d someone changed them to Uncredited. These were showing up and we're properly put in as Credited. The two I was referring to were other projects. So before you berate me please have your facts straight. And who do you think you are making these accusations?
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And yes, I was credited on screen for thoes two shows. And again it was not four shows that I was trying to remove it was two. So because I tried to explain what happened with a manger from years ago I was punnished because you or someone didn't like my tone? Isn't that a shame, did I hurt someones feelings because? Well it seems that person was passive aggressive and then not only didn't correct the original info but then punitively changed my credited info. I'm frankly tired of waisting my time with this and IMDB. Many people, hundreds if not thousands of people have the same experience and frustaation. I was trying to correct things like asking to have credits removed for shows I wasnstt even in (2 not 4) the you all make the shows I was in uncdedited and at the same time they brag about having factual info yet would not remove credits of shows I wasn't in.
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I tracked down a copy of the Unforgettable episode you were in on Daily Motion. You are not credited. I'm guessing if I find the other TV episodes you won't be credited either.

For Unforgettable, the beginning credits consist of the main cast: Poppy Montgomery, Dylan Walsh, Dallas Roberts, James Hiroyuki Liao, Tawney Cypress and Jane Curtin plus guest stars Makenzie Leigh and Dennis Christopher.

Here are the ending credits:




As you can plainly see, your name does not appear on any of the three pages of credits after the episode. If you actually do appear in the credits of any of the works, then you are free to post proof of such. I don't really have time to search out the other episodes to see if you appear in the credits or not.

Note, it doesn't matter if appeared for years without the "uncredited" attribute. That does not make it a correct credit. IMDb solely goes on what appears on screen. Residual checks are immaterial.
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I see now you've gone from stating "Due to Disagreement they changed all my credits to Uncredited" to now claiming you were only credited in 30 Rock and Important Things. 
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Okay. I lied. I will track down other episodes, only because 30 Rock is available on Hulu. For Live Show (I checked the east coast version), the beginning credits only have the main cast: Tina Fey, Tracey Morgan, Jane Krakowski, Jack McBrayer, Scott Adsit, Judah Friedlander and Alec Bladwin.

Here are the ending credits (which you, once again, do not appear):



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Important Things streams on Comedy Central's website. The beginning credits only have the host, Demetri Martin. Here are the end credits (which you still do not appear in.)


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Adrian took a lot of time on your behalf. This is the third time for my saying this to you. Make the corrections as I described above. It will be reversed in a couple of days if you do it right. Correcting existing data
Everyone loves to complain. Blame someone else for their lot in life. This is soooo simple to fix. A vindictive former Agent/Manager of yours altered your page. If he did so and it is found out that he did so as you claim, his submissions to IMDb won't be taken as seriously in the future. So the ball is in your court. Use the link above. Prove your point with those screenshots. Submit the corrections. Only you can initiate the process. No one here can. After your submission corrections you will get a "Confirmation Number". Wait around 72 hours or so. If you see no corrections after a week, start a new post That says, "Why has my submission not been approved?" in the posting put that "Confirmation Number" in for reference.
Replying any further by complaining will just be a waist of time as we still have no real idea of specifically what titles and exactly what episodes you are referring to.
Go and do the submission for your own peace of mind.
Thanks.
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What would be the point of submitting changes? I've already shown he is not credited in the two shows he claims to have been credited in. Unless there exist alternate credits, he would not get credited for these shows. (Also, look at the ordering number for the cast and there are no missing numbers, so it is doubtful he was credited at any point in the past as part of the credited cast. Someone added the credits without understanding IMDb and didn't add the uncredited. Now it is there and is valid.)
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I put that in as a put up or shut up. I was being "POLITE", that's all.
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Go and do the submission for your own peace of mind.
And ours...