CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRES IMDB AGE REMOVAL

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Hello, California just passed a law requiring IMDB to remove someone's age if they request. I request to have mine removed immediately. How do I make that a formal request? IMDB does not have a traditional 'contact us' form? Thanks to anyone who can help! Best, John
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Remove Date Of Birth Under California Law.

California Gov. Jerry Brown recently enacted a law requiring IMDB to remove an actors D.O.B. if requested. I am curious as to how to do this for myself. Although AB 1687 doesn't go into effect until Jan 1, 2017, would it be possible to have this corrected before then?
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I too also received this reply to my request to have my birthdate removed from IMDb: 

"IMDb is currently engaged in litigation with the California Attorney General challenging the constitutionality of California Bill AB 1687. While litigation pertaining to AB 1687 is in progress, IMDb will not be removing birth date or age data subject to the bill."

I don't understand how they can cite "pending litigation" as a valid cause to ignore a law that has now taken effect.  I can sue against any law I want, doesn't mean I don't have to obey it in the meantime.  Can anyone explain?
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AMEN Michele.  I agree wholeheartedly.  I sent Sag an email regarding IMDB's infringement.  I suggest you and everyone else do the same.
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Literally in the middle of typing that same thing to SAG-AFTRA! :)
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Request to remove birthdate.

I demanded that my birth date be removed as per the new law that went into effect 1/1/17. I had received an email from them saying they would deal with this after 1/1 and it contained a link to return to my communication regarding my request. That link now just goes to the Forum page and I find no way to contact them about this. I believe they are in violation of the law. Does anyone have any thoughts about this?

Note: This conversation was created from a reply on: My Account has been blocked.
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IMDB is challenging this law and said they are not deleting DOB's.  It's frustrating and I don't understand what their problem is.  I HATE this company so much.  I have been trying to get my DOB off of this site for a while due to Identity theft. I now have lawyers dealing with Credit Bureau's, Card Company's, etc. It has been a pain in the Ass to say the least
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I truly think we should do a class action lawsuit against them!
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled PLEASE COMPLY WITH CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRING IMDB AGE REMOVAL AT INDIVIDUAL REQUES....

Please remove my birthdate from my IMDB page, in accordance with California anti-discrimination bill AB 1687, effective January 1, 2017.

Over a century ago, the founder of the Pulitzer Prize winning international newspaper The Christian Science Monitor, Mary Baker Eddy wrote:

"Never record ages. Chronological data are no part of the vast forever. Time-tables of birth and death are so many conspiracies against manhood and womanhood. Except for the error of measuring and limiting all that is good and beautiful, man would enjoy more than threescore years and ten and still maintain his vigor, freshness, and promise...The measurement of life by solar years robs youth and gives ugliness to age." (Science & Health, p. 246)

My grandmother, Academy Award nominated actress Lilia Skala lived by the wisdom of these words and reaped their rich reward. During her lifetime, she was effectively able to keep her age out of her own and public thought. Publications such as The Guinness Book of World Records and Who's Who in America, included her name and omitted her birthdate. Her professional unions - SAG, AFTRA, AEA – had no record of her age. When she was 65, entitled to generous pensions from all three, she received nothing. She preferred work over a pension check.

As a result, she received her first Academy Award nomination when she was well over 65. She received Golden Globe and Emmy Award nominations for roles in her 80s. She was making movies, commercials and performing in stage plays - one of which she was nominated for a Helen Hayes Award - well into her 90s. No one was counting, no one knew her age. In her last years, the press guessed and published it as 72. She never lied, she simply omitted it from the record.

Would she have won those roles had her age been known? Highly doubtful.

All people should have the right to be judged based on their abilities and capabilities, rather than limited and discriminated against because of preconceived notions of age.

In this era of internet surveillance, it seems almost impossible to keep personal information private. Your willingness to obey a law protecting the privacy of birthdates from being published (in the same way that social security numbers are kept private) - will protect individuals’ rights to fulfill their potential and life purpose free from age discrimination.
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Elizabeth -Thank you for this very thoughtful and articulate reflection. What it brings up for me is that basic human kindness and respect for human potential is missing in IMDb's policy. The company makes their money by publishing information about artists but has no concern about hurting the very people they are exploiting. Instead, we are treated like statistics, like info bites of varying value. This, of course, causes resentment and resistance. I believe, ultimately, it is in everyone's best interests to allow artists to decide which personal information to make public.
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Good point - imagine the outcry if IMDb (or any other website) publicly posted people's Social Security numbers (or the equivalent in other countries). It'd of course be "factual" and "truthful" information about the person (assuming the number's right), but even the most adamant advocates of "free speech" would probably disapprove of it. In fact, there is a federal law that does regulate the privacy of people's SSNs. California has now deemed that people's DOBs (at least for this purpose) should be considered private information as well, and IMDb ought to comply.
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If they don't do anything about this soon, i will be getting a lawyer to sue them. It's now the LAW and they can't just say "NO" anymore! SO frustrating
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I spoke to the lawyers at SAG. Apparently when you are in appeals over a law it is a grey area. If the law is upheld they make be penalized after the suit. If not they will be Scott free. It's a gamble for them. The appeal process of the law could hold it up for a very very long time. To be honest, it is the right thing to do to remove our birthdates, but in terms of the first amendment it's fairly tricky and they have a good argument and we have an argument as well. But the holly wood reporter interviewed 6 constitisroonal lawyers and 5 found the law unconstitutional.
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Let SAG know if have put in your request, even if you are not a sag memeber, here is a form or write them a letter using the contact us button on the sag.org site.

While we had hoped IMDb would choose to abandon its stubborn insistence on damaging performers’ careers by forcing age information on casting personnel, SAG-AFTRA remains fully committed to seeing an end to this practice. This is an effort that has been years in the making and that may take more time before it’s done. We will defend this law and see it enforced as well as taking whatever other steps are necessary to achieve that goal. 

 

If you have already requested that IMDb Pro and IMDb.com remove your age/birth date, please let us know by filling out this online form

 

We look forward to working together to protect California’s law against this discriminatory practice.

 

Strength in unity,

 

Gabrielle Carteris

President

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We should do a class action suit!
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You may not know this, but it is SAG that has given IMDb our ages.  The reason I know this is when I joined SAG in the early 60s, I cheated my date of birth by five years.  I've never given that date of birth to anyone or anywhere else.  That's how I know SAG is our culprit.  It is my date of birth and age on IMDb.
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Ah ha.... the mystery is solved.
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It's just still curious to that some never have their age listed. Actors who clearly are in SAG.
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I think you have to key it into IMDb unless IMDb take it from an already confirmed source. Which I presume they do for high profile actors who already have their DOB in the newspapers. For the rest of the minnows I presume they key it in themselves. 
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The interesting this is something that has just cropped up is if you manage to get it removed from IMDb how do you remove it from the multitude of websites that copy IMDb data.
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You can't really. This is more or less an argument about principle now. And that IMDb is one of the most widely used sites and will set a precedent going forward.
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Actually, I have requested removal from a number of websites and they all complied except IMDB. Google also tried to comply but couldn't because of IMDB.
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IMDb please remove my date of birth. I am making a request as per SAG instructions. No clue why you would waste your money fighting something that causes actors to be discriminated against? Way to go on drawing out the process and waste precious money you could be donating to a needy charity.
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It really comes down to data. Our data is the way to use us to target us to sell us things, to create other viable websites, data is andless source of revenue. Removal of the birthdate just gives us control of the data available and that makes them a less viable site financially .
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I am also writing to officially ask that my birth date be removed from my imdb.com account
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So, I have spoken to my friend who is a lawyer and she said after reading the legal paperwork for IMDBPro that the paperwork states that if an actor asks to have their date of birth hidden that they MUST comply! SO, apparently they have been doing thing illegally for quite some time! If they don't fix this ASAP I will be putting together a class action lawsuit. Anyone is welcome to join me.
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I'm in. 
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I will join you if you do. Thank you for this excellent idea.
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I would just urge you or your friend to speak to the lawyers at SAG, it's very easy you just call over and ask to speak to the legal department. I called and had an expressive convo with a lawyer there a few days ago and he explained that when a law is being challenged for repeal it isn't quite so simple and they can opt not to follow it right now as a gamble that it will be repealed. Although not quite legal t is common and if we were to sue them why they are suing the state to challenge the law which may take quite some time, there may be no resolution because one depends on the other.
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You may not know this but the Google search engine picks up DOB from IMDB and at least in my case, no one needs to go to the source; it's all there in one click on Google.
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I have already written to IMDB demanding removal of my birth date since the new law was passed but before it went into effect. At that time, there was a request form available to do this. I am not now able to access that form and, as far as I can tell, there is no longer any to access such a form. So I am demanding again in this forum that my birth date be removed. I believe that IMDB's putting their monetary interests above the well being of the artists they exploit is despicable behavior. We need to utilize the best of our creativity to stop them from harming us for profit.
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The best thing you could would be to contact you representatives icalifornia by phone and let them know how you feel.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled The IMDB - a bastion of the REAL American way: Freedom of speech and information!....

"“Rather than properly passing laws designed to address the root problem of age discrimination, the State of California has chosen instead to chill free speech and to undermine access to factual information of public interest. As such AB 1687 plainly violates the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and cannot be enforced.” - All REAL American Patriots are very proud of the IMDB right now! God bless the IMDB and We The People are with you 100%!
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This is a matter of opinion and not fact. That is a quote, I assume from imdb's counter suit against the legislation. Which does not make it fact. Just as much as there is a point to be made about the with the first amendment, having and trading or selling our info is in violation of the Privacy Act. This is also a huge legal problem in terms of IMDb' practices. The Privacy Act is a federal law established in 1974 to protect the collection and dissemination of personal information and has been very hard to maintain in the computer age. It could be said that what IMDb is doing is unpatriotic under that very important law. Either way this is all opinion at this point and the law at this time states that the govenmenr feels this law is constitiuational. IMDb was also bought by Amazon and put information has been used thusly, which is why it is so important to maintain the right to it.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled AB1687. Official Request to remove birth year.

Per AB 1687, this is a formal request to remove the birth year for http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2273287/
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Go to your IMDb pro account and use the "contact us" form to ask. They won't reply here and it won't be recorded. You'll get the same reply there everyone else has been getting saying they won't remove it but it will be recorded in your account.
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You may not be able to delete it but you can certainly alter it by a URL to Facebook or Twitter account. 
  • We do allow social media links to be an acceptable source for birthdates (e.g. Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, etc.)
https://contribute.imdb.com/updates/guide/bio_all_guides#birthdeath
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Birthday removal.

Birthday removal - There is a new California law which says IMBD must remove my birthday upon request. Will someone share with me how to requesty it? Thanks. . .Eric
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Awesome news everyone imdb will now DELETE  BIRTH DATES.
https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/i-want-to-delete-my-profile-on-imbd-birthplace-and-date-are-...
I have looked into this further on your behalf and have removed the date of birth from the name page.
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How?
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Hi Karen,

I understand that you have successfully got the IMDb to remove an incorrect date of birth that was shwoing on the IMDb.com page for your credits. There is no year of brith showing on the IMDb page now but I can see from a cached version that it was showing you as having a birth year of 1960, which was clearly incorrect. It must be frustrating, knowing that the year of birth was incorrect, asking for it to be deleted and then having that request refused initially.
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In another thread you state the IMDb was making you "8 years older than i REALLY AM". This woukld make your year of birth circa 1968, as someone has recorded on Wikipedia. I understand you Karen Ann Davitt

http://www.abnfinder.com.au/abn/60308348130

and that you were born in London.

If this is true, you might like to know that I found another couple of places where your year of brith has been incorrectly recorded as being 1963 and not 1968.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=BMD_BIRTH&gss=sfs28_ms_r_f-BMD_BIRTH&new=1&a...

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/search/results?sourcecategory=births%252c%2bmarriages%2b%2526%2bdeaths&firstname=karen&lastname=davitt&region=great%20britain&keyword=london
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Request to Delete Birth Year.

With the passing of the new California law implemented in January 2017, how do I request to have my birth year taken off of my profile? Is AB 1687 still in litigation? Thanks!
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On the upper right hand side of the page hover over you name and click on Site Settings you'll be directed to that section then choose Change your personal details.I think that should do it
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Is that option on IMDB pro?
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I haven't seen it on IMDb Pro, but did find it on the normal site. However, even with the year blank in that setting, the birth year still appears on the site. Not sure what to do.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled date of birth.

Why is IMDB being violating the law, specifically California law AB 1687 that requires them to remove our date of birth upon request? When submitting a resume for any other job in California you don't put your age on. It's disappointing that IMDB is using their freedoms in an adverse way, specifically their freedom of speech. Actors run your website. Without our our contributions, you would not be as effective so why not show us some respect. Where is this negative defiance coming from? It has adversely affected me significantly since my age has been posted. I look very much younger and play younger roles although my actual age is 10 years older and now I've had way fewer auditions and less agency consideration. I'm not sure what sort of satisfaction anyone can get out of ruining someone's career even though we've sacrificed so much to even get an IMDB presence.  Please consider how your actions are impacting up and coming actors like me.
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I will leave authoritative IMDb reps to answer this correctly, but as a (non-American) user and contributor for more than 20 years, I would say that it is because IMDb is (hopefully) not about movies made in California, but from 1893 and all over the world. E.g., in the past few months they have developped the exposure of the India movie industry (900+ feature films a year), and I expect to find any piece of data regarding any film made anywhere at any time and people who made them. This probably why, the sole California law cannot be enforced to the detriment of standard expectations elsewhere.