Antisemittism in description of Holocaust documentary

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The description of the documentary Black Honey - the life and poetry of Avraham Sutzkever - contains two references to Adolf Hitler as a "star" and "uncredited" cast. Sutzkever was a Holocaust survivor whose mother and newborn son were killed by the Nazis in Lithuania during the Second World War. I find this appalling. Can someone please change the movie description?
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8901264/


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I sorry to say this, but IMDb will likely rule that it does not violate contribution guidelines.
So it will more than likely remain.
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Not only is it antisemittic, it is factually incorrect. As far as I know, there is no footage of Hitler or speficic reference to him as a person in the movie - as it mainly focuses on the poet's life. Surely, there must be a way to remove this?
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What are you referring to?
This is the movie description

  • The incredible story of Avraham Sutskever, the greatest Yiddish poet, who saved manuscripts from the Nazis, survived WWII due to Stalin's special rescue plane, testified in the Nuremberg Trials, and died anonymously in Tel Aviv.

  • As long as Abraham Sutskever lived, he wouldn't let a film about his life be made. Today, eight years after his passing, Black Honey tells the incredible story of the greatest Yiddish poet of modern times. The man who led the Paper Brigade underground movement that saved Jewish manuscripts from the Nazis, survived the WWII due to Stalin sending him a private rescue plane, testified in the Nuremberg Trials, and immigrated to Israel in 1947 where he led Yiddish culture while writing in astonishing vitality.


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If you are referring to this. It will remain also.

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If there is just a glimpse of a photo hanging on a wall within the documentary it's inclusion is valid.
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Ed: While I have raised issues about contradictions in the "archive footage" policy before, I don't think that a photo hanging on a wall counts as a valid archive footage credit. See https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/filmography-credits/cast-acting-credits-guidelines/GH3JZC74FVYKKFMD?ref_=helpms_helpart_inline#archive:

The "must be real footage" rule
If someone's stock likeness appears as a photograph or as a poster on a wall, or on the cover of a magazine etc. in a scene of a film, it's not eligible.

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Now if you want to create a name page for the poet Avraham Sutzkever so that he can be included in the cast, then by all means do so.
You can add him as a cast member.
Read this topic and add him.
How do I contribute data to IMDb?
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Naomi: The solution to this would be to submit Cast credits to the documentary to reflect the principal people who are seen on screen in the documentary. Just looking at the trailer at https://go2films.com/films/black-honey-the-life-and-and-poetry-of-avraham-sutskever/, I see at least four people who were filmed in new footage for this documentary (and thus should have regular credits, not "archive footage" credits). 

Once the people filmed in new footage are credited, that will relegate Hitler to a much lower position in the cast. Hence, the "Stars" of the film as listed on IMDb should change. In addition, any other people shown in archive footage may be submitted to the Cast with "archive footage" attributes.

As to whether Hitler should be listed at all, please check the documentary and see whether, indeed, there is any archive footage showing Hitler in the film at all. If so, the "archive footage" credit should be kept, but if not, you should submit a deletion for that credit.

I hope this helps.
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Yes, it now looks a bit odd that only Hitler is listed on the (cast) credits, since I’m (also) sure there are real, living people who also appear in the documentary. So someone should watch the documentary and submit the rest of the cast & crew.

Naomi: Hitler also has an IMDb name page and he actually has over 1000 ”archive footage” credits. Basically if there’s an documentary about the WW2, Hitler will appear in some filmed form or another. Photos on wall doesn’t count, though.