Use Your Alesis HD24 with Windows 10

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There is software that allows you to use your HD24 with newer versions of the Windows operating system such as Windows 8/8.1 and Windows 10. This software replaces the Alesis FST Connect software. It is called HD24Tools and is available at

http://ringbreak.dnd.utwente.nl/~mrjb...

I have been able to run HD24Tools on Windows 10 Professional, 64 bit. I am using it with the FirePort 1394 device to connect the HD24 caddy to my computer.

Although I am not sure this is necessary, I set up the application to run in Administrator mode with Windows XP SP3 compatibility.

Alesis' FSTConnect v1.05 software will only run on 32 bit operating systems and seems to be limited to Windows 7. HD24Tools, referenced above, removes those limitations.

There is a complete manual for HD24Tools in PDF and online formats that can also be viewed and downloaded at the web site mentioned above.

The author of HD24Tools did a great service for the HD24 community!

Screen shot of the HD24Tools UI below:
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Windows 10 won't recognize the hard drive from my HD24XR unless the drive is formatted accordingly. If Windows won't recognize it, HD24tools doesn't detect it. Any suggestions?
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Rollie-

The HD24 hard disk and your computer hard disk have completely different file formats, so they are not mutually compatible. However, HD24tools or FST/Connect software can create a Windows-compatible.WAV file on your computer from recordings on an HD24 hard disk.

If you send me an email, I would be happy to share a write-up of how to record and handle audio files produced on the Alesis HD24.

Neil Howard
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Have you tried windows 10 with the updates that took place in September 2016? (Drivers were updated - NO rollback option). Since then I cannot get my firewire 400 card (Belkin 3-port 400Mps) to recognize the HD24 FirePort 1394 at all, although my old M-Audio FireWire Audiophile interface is working just fine (Thank Goodness). In November of 2015
I was desperate enough to try the Ethernet connection, direct to PC. I have a cable and a crossover adapter. I have run continuity tests on the cable an the crossover adapter - all pin assignments are OK. No luck there either. I seem to be at a dead end. :(
Any help would be much appreciated!
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Jack-My setup still seems to be working OK after the September 2016 Windows 10 Pro updates. My Firewire card is a StarTech Dual Port PCI Express, model PEX1394A2V. It's currently less than $30 on Amazon.The only other thing that I can think of is going to the Belkin website and seeing if they still have the older driver...
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Thanks for your prompt response! I have ordered the PEX1394A2V from Amazon. I needed to free up a PCI slot, so the Express Card slot is better for me. I may need two adjacent PCIs for an ADAT device. I am looking at the RME Hammerfall HDSP 9652. Are you using the HD24tools 0.9.2 beta download?
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Yes. The name of the download file is hd24tools_setup_0.9.2beta_win32.zip
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Hi - I installed the PEX1394A2V. It was a tight fit - about 1mm to much of a standoff from the backplate, but if I loosen the screws holding the board to the backplate I can get it into the Express slot. It works fine - for my Fire wire Audiofile box, but no luck on the FirePort 1394. When I run the HD24 connect, I still get "No valid HD24 drive connected to the system". I tried compatability, etc. no luck. I have a question - when you put a drive caddy into the FirePort 1394, does the drive "spin up"? I get nothing. This happens with either of my drive caddies, but when they are in the HD24, everything works fine, with audio output on any of the 24 tracks. I am using the same PC hardware I used last year: running windows 10 64 bit. It did work last year - very frustrating. I am beginning to think the FirePort 1394 might be bad, but it has worked OK for 10 years. Any ideas? I am thinking of trying to get the Ethernet connection working, but I may have hardware issues there - my router might not work down to 10mps. My PC card does work at slow speeds, but I could not get anything working with a direct connect between the HD24 & the PC, even though I had the correct cable.
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Yep. Here is what I get: Once I have the caddy plugged into the Fireport 1394 adapter which in turn is plugged into the Firewire port on the computer: I turn the power switch ON on the Fireport 1394, the Fireport 1394 light immediately turns green when the power switch is turned ON; the drive then spins up and gives a blink of the red light and a beep on the computer when it is sensed by the OS. Make sure you are running HD24Tools "as Administrator." Does your caddy drive spin up? Make sure the power to the Fireport 1394 is plugged in securely and the Firewire cable between the Fireport 1394 and the computer is also plugged in securely.
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Thanks. Here is what is happening - and it was the same with the old FireWire card (and using a few different FireWire cables, just to be sure) - a drive caddy works in the HD24. I dismount (power down) & pull out the caddy. If I turn on the FirePort with or without connecting to my PC only the green light comes on. If I plug the caddy into the FirePort with or without connecting to my PC both the green and red lights stay on & no sound or vibration comes from the caddy (it does not spin up). Whether I start the HD24 connect first or last in this procedure (as admin) same thing. HD24 connect says no valid HD24 drive connected. I think the drives are not working in the FirePort. Do your drives spin up, even if you are not connected to your PC? If not connected to your PC, do both (red & green) lights come on?
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Jack- I tested my Fireport 1394 both with and without the Firewire connection to the PC. When I flip the power switch ON, the green light comes ON, the drive/caddy spins up and I get a red light blink IN BOTH CASES, i.e. whether or not the Firewire cable is connected to the computer.

It sounds to me like your Fireport 1394 is not getting power to the caddy/drive. This could be because the Fireport 1394 has a loose or faulty power connection itself, or the Fireport 1394 has some kind of internal power fault. Since it worked before, I tend to discount the internal fault.

I tried completely disconnecting the caddy/drive from the FirePort 1394. With ONLY the power connection to the FirePort 1394, when I flip ON the power switch, I get a solid green light on the Fireport 1394.

I would try disconnecting and reconnecting the power cable to the FirePort 1394 and see if that works w/ and w/o the caddy/drive connected. Also, you might check the 6 pins on the end of the power cable where it plugs into the Fireport 1394 to make sure they aren't broken, missing or shorted.

If you cannot get a green light on the Fireport 1394, I suspect the power cable, the inline power transformer, or the Fireport 1394 itself. You can probably find a replacement cable and inline transformer, but the Fireport 1394 itself is a rare beast.

If you can get the green light on the Fireport 1394 adapter, then the problem might be in the caddy/drive power connection. Disconnect the caddy, then you can slide the top off the caddy and check the connection between the IDE drive and the 50-pin Centronics connector in the back end of the caddy. Look especially at the connection between the Centronics and the 4 lead power plug which plugs into the IDE drive. I remember having to make this connection myself for my second drive when I bought the second IDE drive to go in the empty caddy. You could even test the bare IDE drive itself separately to see if it will spin up when given power.

Good Luck!
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I just re-read your post. If you are getting a solid red light all the time, I think that is the problem. I am getting a red light blink only when data is being transferred, such as at initial spin-up or downloading tracks. Try disconnecting the caddy/disk and turning on the Fireport 1394 by itself with only its power cable connected. You should not get any red light, but you should get a solid green light. If you do get the red light solid, the problem is in the Fireport 1394 or its power cable/connection. If you get the solid red light only when you connect the caddy/disk, then there is a problem in the woiring or connector between the caddy and the disk.
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Thanks for your consideration.
I think the FirePort is toast. The caddies work fine in the HD24, but when I plug them into the FirePort, I get the green and red lights continuous. Without them in the FirePort, the only light on is green. This FirePort has been shared between our sound guy & several others. I never saw anyone with the manual. The manual I see on line has cautions about not "hot plugging" the caddies. That probably happened and maybe something got shorted out on the board. Why else would the caddies work in HD24, but not in the FirePort?
I will try anything to get the tracks.
Other options: I saw something about connecting the caddies via USB. Not sure how that would work. I would like to try ethernet, but no one I know was able to do this successfully. I have all the ethernet cables, crossover and straight. My last-ditch attempt would be to spend $800 for a 4 port ADAT (fiber optic) board and re-record in all 24 channels into my DAW while playing them on the HD24.
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Jack- I ran across some substitutes for the Fireport. These were listed on the HD24Tools site in their hardware list.

https://ringbreak.dnd.utwente.nl/~mrj...

There are a couple of devices apparentl;y still made by a Taiwanese company called ViPower. One is a USB 2.0 interface for the HD24 disk caddy and the other is a combined Firewire and USB 2.0 interface.

http://en.vipower.com/products01_01.p...

http://en.vipower.com/products01_01.p...

Both of these devices have been tested to work with HD24Tools and the Alesis HD24 disk caddy.

The company seems to have a US distributor in San Jose, California:
ViPowER USA, Inc.
Benjamin Tsai
769 E. Brokaw Road
San Jose, CA 95112
Tel: 408-453-6277
Fax: 408-453-6275

http://en.vipower.com/contactus.php?P...

One of these might be an option to replace a broken Fireport 1394.
Good Luck!
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Chapter 9 of the Alesis manual describes using ftp to pull files via the ethernet port.
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Thanks Neil! Phone Numbers in CA disconnected. I am still struggling with the Ethernet port. Using a hub seems out of the question - never got it to work. Using a crossover cable directly to a PC and the instructions out there from Chris D (Employee - 1 year ago), I could actually get to see the HD24 files (Yea!) I am using Filezilla FTP software, but so far files do not transfer evenly & there and a lot of disruption errors. I have only tried entire folders. I get 2 or 3 tracks and they are incomplete. I am assuming it is the software vs. the (now primitive) FTP capabilities of the HD 24. Anyone you know have luck doing this in the winodows 10 environment? Looks like the HD24 is going the way of the dodo bird...
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Bummer on the Fireport replacement from ViPower in Taiwan. I guess the info is just too old. I have not tried nor do I know of anyone who has successfully used ftp to extract files from the Alesis HD24. Sorry!

I have run across a newer technology for multitrack recording: the Cymatic Audio LR16. I think Cymatic is a European (Swiss?) company. The device costs $500 and is available from Sweetwater, Adorama, B&H Photo and on Amazon. It uses an external USB hard disk (you provide). The company link for this device is http://cymaticaudio.com/products/reco....
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I am running windows 10 64bit. I can consistently get the HD24 files via FTP, albeit with some transmission failures for which I just re-do the transmission. Use a stand alone PC or laptop not connected to the web. Shut off all anti-virus programs. Connect an Ethernet cable with a crossover adaptor between the PC and the HD24. In Control Panel, select Network and Sharing Center, Ethernet connection, select properties and change the speed from auto negotiate to 10mps full duplex.
In Connection Properties, select Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4), under Properties, select Use the following IP address. Then enter IP address, Subnet Mask & Default Gateway as 192 . 168 . 1 .101; 255 . 255 . 255 . 0 and 192 . 168 . 1 . 101. Set your HD24 into FTP mode.
In Filezilla, I enter the IP as 198.168.1.100 and the user and password as “anonymous” (assuming you did not change it on the HD24). HD24 appears as the remote site. Drag a file to the local site you choose. It is slow – about 29,135,124 bytes per minute, but it works!

Looking to speed up the process, I bought a "USB 3.0 to Sata & IDE converter on Amazon for about $23. It connects 3 ways and also has a 12vDC plug that fits the drive. The socket labeled "3.5 IDE" fits the 4" drive as well. What do you think? Will the HD24 connect work with it? Before I attempt this, I downloaded the 3 hours of 24 track that was on the drive - not taking any chances.
Jack
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Since I always had the Fireport device, I never tried the ftp method described in the manual and so well in your post. Looks like if you have patience, it works fine.

I am not sure if the USB3 to IDE converter will work, but it is worth a try to speed up the process. Basically you are simulating the Fireport which is basically an IDE/Centronics to firewire adapter. If your PC can recognize the HD24 drive, then you should be able to get it to work with either the FST/Connect or HD24Tools software to do the transfer.

In the HD24, the IDE drive is installed in the caddy which has an IDE to Centronics adapter, so if you are going IDE direct to your USB3 adapter, you will have to take the hard drive out of the caddy. If your converter has a Centronics interface, then you could plug the caddy into it directly.
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I tried the device I bought, "USB 3.0 to IDE/SATA Converter Hard Drive Adapter with Power Switch for 2.5"/3.5"SATA" - no luck. I got some old 3.5 drives to work right away. The HD for the HD24 is of course 4" not 3.5, as well as labeled ATA (not SATA) but the connector and power supply worked fine and I could tell the disk was spinning, but no recognition in windows and the hd connect did not find the drive. I tried all the logical jumper connections, although the drive was already jumped for master & that should have worked. I put the drive back in the caddy and it was still working fine in the HD24. I guess there is a difference between SATA and ATA. Any ideas?
On the plus side, I figured out that I needed to change the default Filezilla Maximum Simultaneous Transfers from 2 to 1. So now I can batch files & I get several to work over the course of a day without interruption, although I do have failures. Sometimes the transmission just stops - everything freezes and I have shut off the HD24 and start over - but at least I get a few hours of unsupervised transmissions! The last live recordings were 2 hrs and 40 minutes - you can imagine acquiring 24 tracks of that with this method...
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Yeah, that (slow transfer rate) is the problem with the 10MB/s ethernet port on the HD24. Here's a reference for the difference between ATA(IDE) and SATA: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-dif.... You used the IDE connector on your adapter, right?
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Thanks for the link. I did used the IDE - it was the only connection that would fit.
It fit perfectly (there is an outside cable key on the top center of the female connector), but it looked like there were more male connectors on the HD not used. The jumpers are off to the side next to the power connection.
See https://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/s...
Can you still buy IDE drives or is that the really big issue for the old HD24?
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Yes, you can still buy IDE hard drives. Both Amazon and eBay have them both new and refurbished.

My HD24 has two 80GB IDE HDDs that I purchased in 2009. Still going strong. I think that the HD24 has been superseded by the USB and solid state recording devices. I wish that Alesis had replaced it with a more modern model say with solid state drives, but I guess they couldn't make a business case for it somehow.
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Neil, I also have a HD24 and would like to still use it if possible with windows 7 and newer operating systems. Can you e-mail me as well how you do it? My e-mail is: joadmz@sbcglobal.net - would so appreciate any help you can give me.
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Joanne- I sent you some information on 17Dec16, I hope that this helps.
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Neil, will it work with Windows 7 Pro? If so, I need it.
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No problem. Send me your email address and I would be happy to email it to you.It worked with Windows 7 Pro 64-bit.
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BTW, Microsoft is still allowing free upgrades to Windows 10 from Win 7. See https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...
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What is the best way to get firewire if there is no port on my laptop? Will a hub work or an adaptor?
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I used a Firewire adapter on a desktop PC. You might try a a Firewire to USB adapter for your laptop or some kind of converter cable.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/New-Firewi...
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Hi, still having problems with alesis firepirt 1394 connection with windows 10. I tried the legacy driver, but still... nothing..... help... arf....

Thanks,

Olivier
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Oliver-

If you send me an email, I would be happy to share a write-up of how to record and handle audio files produced on the Alesis HD24 with a FirePort 1394 and Windows 10. This may be of some help to you.

Neil Howard
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Hi Neil, Alesis HD24 with Windows 10 only works with FirePort 1394??
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The FirePort 1394 is the easiest way to get files off the HD24 disks, however others have used the ethernet (network) port as well, but it is much slower. The instructions for how to do that are in the HD24 manual, but I have no experience with it.
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Hi Neil, I am glad to see that you are still in this forum helping. When I saw the top posts were three years ago, I was about to give up hopes, but here you are just days ago answering questions.
I have windows 7 Pro 64bit operating system, and have my HD24 connected via Ethernet, but the HD24 connect tools is unable to detect the HD24 even after setting up the app to working in Windows XP (service pack 3) compatible mode with administrator privilege. Any tips that might work?
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Hi Charles- You are already running running HD24Tools application "As Administrator" and in compatibility mode. Those are the only two keys that I know of based on the HD24Tools website. Have you looked at the Ethernet file transfer instructions in the Alesis HD24 manual? There may be something there. I have always used the FirePort 1394 for file transfer, so I have never had to use the Ethernet port and really have no useful experience with it.
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All,
Yesterday I followed Neil’s instructions...upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 Pro (free). Then I followed the instructions on what he sent me on how to setup HD24Connect...and it worked like a charm.

Thanks again Neil.

Brian
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I love it when a plan comes together!
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I also upgraded to windows 10 PRO for free. Followed the instructions, and still get the same message that that a valid drive has not been detected. Just about given up.
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Charles-

See Joe's description on the forum below. This may help you with your Ethernet file transfer from your HD24. Alternatively, the FirePort 1394 is available on eBay for around $150.

Neil
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Charles-

I missed your comment that you were connecting by Ethernet to the HD24. Sorry!

Since you are connecting your computer to your Alesis HD24 via the Ethernet port, the use of HD24Tools will not help you. This is useful only for connecting via the FirePort 1394 to connect the disk caddy to your computer via a Firewire port.

Ethernet is more complex than using HD24Tools or Alesis' FST Connect software with the Fireport 1394.

My understanding is that file transfer via the HD24 Ethernet port happens by ftp. Take a look at Chapter 9 in the Alesis HD24 manual. This lays out the steps to put your HD24 in ftp server mode and transfer files using Internet Explorer or ftp software.
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I can comment on Ethernet transfer using windows 10. Everything I figured out was through the manual instructions but I will try and summarize and you can decide if its an option you want to try. There are two methods. One has a specially wired Ethernet cable going directly from the HD24 to your PC. I was not able to get it to work - might be my cable (called a "crossover cable" because it is a specially wired Ethernet cable). The other method I will run through requires two regular Ethernet cables and a network hub. A wireless router can probably work as your network hub as it likely has multiple Ethernet ports on it and connects to your home network allowing wired devices to transmit over your network.

I will warn that if you get it working, it is a very slow transfer. I'll probably be moving files for a month.. I have over 500GB to move. It also stops working for me every 10 to 20 tracks.. I just start it up again.

1.) Connect your HD24 to your hub using a regular Ethernet cable.
2.) Consider reading the manual to setup your IP address and various settings. I found that the defaults recommended in the manual were already set.
3.) Press the utility key on the HD24 until you see FTP server and press Y to start it up. Your HD24 no longer functions in this mod as a recorder. It is now a file server on your network which you can access through ftp software. You simply press the stop button to go back to normal mode. When FTP stops working, I have to hold the power key down to get out of this mode...
4.) On you PC, set up some directories to prepare for the files. I created and ADAT directory and then I create multiple S01, S02, S03 directories under that for the songs that I will bring in. in the ADAT directory I created two text files. one has the command to launch FTP and one has directions for the ftp program to follow. Here is the contents of a file called "runftp.txt" (between the two ------) those dashes should not be in your text file

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open 192.168.1.100
anonymous
""
lcd S01
cd WAV
cd Drive1
cd "Project01 - Proj Name"
cd "Song01 - Song Name"
get Track01.wav
get Track02.wav
get Track03.wav
get Track04.wav
get Track05.wav
get Track06.wav
get Track07.wav
get Track08.wav
quit
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The open command connects to your HD24 in FTP
The next two lines help it login. user name in this case is 'anonymous' and pass is blank. These need to match what you set on your HD24 but I think this is default. lcd changes the directory the files will be dropped in. In my case, S01. the cd commands are navigating your HD24 drive to get to the directory that contain your WAV files (I want wav files but an AIFF directory also exists for mac. The quotes around some text help it handle the spaces. If you are copy and paste you might want to consider typing those quotes directly as sometimes character sets get confused. You will need to adjust these directories based on your case but the text shown might work for your first song on the drive if you did not edit names. Now it simply runs a bunch of get commands to get each track. Those tracks will be named as shown. Increase the number if you have more tracks. quit exits ftp. The second text file I just called readme.txt and it contains the command to launch this transfer. I put it in the ADAT directory and it contains one line which I copy and paste later. that line is

c:\windows\system32\ftp.exe -s:runftp.txt

5.) Launch a command prompt. click on that windows start thingy and type 'command' until you see command prompt program and launch it. now you want to cd - change directory - into your ADAT directory. I happen to be using the f drive so I type and enter

f:

then I type and enter

cd ADAT

at this point you could try to ping you HD24

ping 192.168.1.100

you should see a reply but it might say no reply. You need a reply. if this does not work then read manual to understand how to set you IP address and check your cables. Also make sure you turned on FTP server mode on the HD24.

now just run the command

c:\windows\system32\ftp.exe -s:runftp.txt

Its very slow. The runftp file allows you to walk away for a while.

I don't know if I will be back here but good luck and hopefully I have not caused new frustration.

ftp may or may not be installed on your windows machine. I am using what comes with windows. I have so far not been able to get other free programs (GUI) to connect to HD24 but I assume its operator error. I have used HD24Tools previously but am having issues getting my drives to respond when plugged into my pc through and IDE adapter. I believe the one drive I am working with is going bad however.. The utility being talked about here would be a better option for most if you can get it working. I don't remember if it was faster but I suspect it was. This is a last resort option in my opinion - because it is so slow and I have to restart it every so often.

Again, most everything I said here is in the manual which you can find on line. The part about the txt file helps automate but you need to be comfortable with directories. You can also use ftp manually. Type ftp 192.168.1.100 at the command prompt. Then type anonymous and then again. (blank password in my case.

Here you can type help to get a list of commands which you can search for on line
dir allows you to see a directory
cd allows you to change directory (note the use of double quotes mentioned previously to handle spaces)
get gets files from HD24
put puts files onto HD24
mget did not appear to work with HD24 - operator error? This got me to the txt file solution. The txt file solution still help me avoid logging in and getting to correct directories.

Good Luck - Joe
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Joe-

Nice detailed explanation of how to use the Ethernet port on the back of f the HD24 for file transfers! like your automated ftp scripts. I think that the HD24 has a 10MB/s Ethernet port only. That is probably one reason that file transfers are so slow using this method. But it is the only show in town if the FirePort 1394 is unavailable. I have recently seen the FirePort 1394 available on eBay for around $150 which may be a useful option.

Neil Howard
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I think I forgot to mention connecting your PC to your network hub via Ethernet cable. That is where the second Ethernet cable came into play. Here both your ADAT HD24 and your PC are now plugged into your network through what is most likely your wireless router which often has wired connections available on it. Thanks - Joe
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Hi Joe, What version of HD24 tools do you use? I cannot make it work, it does not detect the fireport or Harddisc. What hardware do you use at the pc end? I have tried a USB to thunder3 to thunder 2 to firewire.
Thank you for your reply.
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Hi Olestetter1. In my case, the HD24 was connected to my router through an ethernet cable and then my pc is also connected to that same router through another ethernet cable. I then went through the process as described above in two different posts to more or less manually move the files to a hard drive connected to my pc. This method is very slow and I would suggest doing it only if you can't get any other method to work if you have a large amount of data to move. I did not use HD24 tools. I think the program launched but I was not able to get it to detect the drive, similar to what you are saying.
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Hi All

I need to transfer multi-track audio files from a computer (PC or MAC) to the HD24.
Does anyone know where I might find:
1) Instructions
2) HD24 file format (WAVs, or whatever)
3) Actual HD24 disk format (FAT32, etc)

Any help most gratefully appreciated

Best Wishes

Ted
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The Alesis HD24 is a digital recording device. Why do you want to transfer tracks TO the HD24? Usually people are transferring files FROM the HD24 to a DAW. Please explain. Thanks.
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Neil Howard

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The HD24 disk format (ADAT/FST) is a proprietary format which is not compatible with MS Windows or MacOS. That's why you need special software (Alesis FST Connect or HD24Tools) to transfer/convert recordings from the HD24 disks to a Windows or Mac-based machine in .WAV format.

From Alesis:
"The Alesis ADAT File Streaming Technology, or ADAT/FST, records onto hard
drives in a unique way designed from the ground up for multitrack audio. Many
other hard disk recorders use the Microsoft-designed FAT32 or Apple’s HFS+ file
format. Since these were originally designed for the relatively small data files
used in personal computers, not for real-time multitrack recording and playback,
they break up audio into many small files scattered across the disk. Alesis
ADAT/FST keeps all tracks of a song in large associated clusters on the hard disk,
so the disk doesn’t have to “hunt” all over during recording and playback."
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HI Neil, many thanks for getting back to me.

I am sorry, I should have explained, we use the the HD24 as a live playback machine for gigs.

So the HD24 plays various overdubs and drum parts transferred from the original multitracks and the stage musicians play along. It also means that I can balance all the individual sources out on in the auditorium.

We have been employing this method with the HD24 for over 10 years, the HD is really bulletproof and the setup works brilliantly.

Up until now, we have just transferred the songs as a single analogue pass from Logic to the HD24, but I want to explore transferring as individual files. Part of our team did start down this road last year using ethernet but ran into problems and also ran out of time.

However the HD24 Fireport interface seems to be the answer and it looks like we may be able to lay our hands on one. Also our studio runs Logic and has amassed many generations of other Alesis kit over 30 odd years.

My questions were just so I can get an understanding of what topography I am dealing with before I make a start.

Have you every used the Fireport Neil?

Huge thanks

Ted
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Thanks, Ted-

If you send me an email, I would be happy to share a write-up of how I have used the FirePort 1394 with the Alesis HD24. My use of the HD24 has been solely as a multi-track recording device, but you may be able to adapt the ideas in my write-up to your playback scenario.

Neil Howard
nhowardtx@gmail.com
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Joe

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Hi Ted,

If Neil can get you going, his method is much much faster compared to ethernet. I have a write up above on how I managed to use ethernet to transfer from the ADAT to a PC. If you substituted the 'get' command with the 'put' command I would expect it to work in reverse as long as your directory name and structure on the HD24 matches what the HD24 would expect and as long as all your files for a particular song have the exact same length. Your files should be the same size since their origin was from the HD24 assuming you did not alter them in that respect. As I said, its a very slow process and I also had to restart it many times because it would eventually fail on some file as mentioned (I think) in the write up. I have not tried to use the put command but I would think the ADAT will write it out correctly in its own format. Again, Neil has the best solution but reach out if I might be able to give any more details on the ethernet method. Good luck!

Joe