The Extra Input on the DM10 module? What is it for?

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Concerning the DM10 Module. There is a 13th. input! What is it for? How do you use it? Additionally; as I went through the module inputs, I noticed one is in some way "unavailable" - because; I am using a Triple Zone Ride with the Bell! What exactly is unavailable? Why?
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Hello,

Welcome back to the forum. The DM10 has 12 dual zone (12x 1/4" TRS) inputs. The extra input can be used a dual zone for a cymbal, not an extra cymbal or pad. You then have one input left which is your Hi-hat controller input. That is continuous compatible (1x 1/4"). You wouldn't be able to use dual zone with your Hi-Hat. The module's input does not support dual zone/TRS inputs (such as a VH-12).

As for your last question, you should only use up to dual zone not triple. The DM10 is not optimized for triple zone.
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Chris! Optimized or not, I have a triple zone ride working fine! I have a DM10! 4 Toms, 1 Bass, 1 Snare. All Alesis Real Heads! As to Cymbals: 1 Triple Zone Ride, 1 Dual Zone Crash, 2 Single Zone Crash and the Pro X Hi Hat. I use a Griffin Double base Pedals and A Griffin Hi Hat Stand! Both work quite well at a reasonable price! I upgraded to a DM 10 little by little. DM6, DM7X then DM10. My Frame is a Highly Modified DM6 Frame - much, much, much sturdier than stock DM6 or DM7x! Maybe, even stronger than the DM10's Frame! It's a Rock Solid Frame! I needed slightly smaller then the standard DM10 - to fit in the room - LOL. I have the standard DM10 cable Snake and Updated Firmware. However; I seem to be "Maxed Out."

Strange! One single zone crash cymbal on Perc 4 always defaults to A Latin Percussion Tom! Is there a way to edit Perc 4 universally for all kits as opposed to 1 at a time?
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Hi Dabonboza, I have the same issue with perc4 input defaulting to the Latin Tom voice. I haven't found any way to do a mass edit, so I have just gone in to each kit that I like to use ( my go to is Big Wet!!). That said I hope I never have to do a factory default reset... Best of luck to you and happy drumming.
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Hi,
If it's any help, (RE the Perc 4), I have the REDBOX RBM-20 and the DM-10 and they both do that. I started with the Alesis Surge Mesh and then added to it (the pic is with the RBM-20 but I have the DM-10 hooked up exactly the same) and now I have the following:

10" snare (to "2 Snare") | (3)- 8" tom pads (to Tom 1, 2 & 3) | (1)- 10" pad as Tom 4 (which is on "Perc 4") | two kick bass pads, (Left kick on "1Kick" and Right kick on "Perc 3") |

(2)- 10" crash cymbals connected with a Y-cable. One end is 2-channel 1/4" TRS, which goes to the "Perc2", and the single channel 1/4" split to each 10" pad. I don't need dual-zone on them so I'm fine and I can assign each with a separate voice by using "Perc2-Rim" for one of them and "Perc-2" for the other. Just remember to set the trigger on the "Perc2Rim" to "Switch" |

(1)- 16" crash dual-zone on "7Crash" | and finally, (1)- 14" Alesis triple-zone on "Ride1", and I have the trigger set for triple-zone and "Ride Bell" is set to Piezo).
Rich
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UPDATE/CORRECTION:

In my earlier post, I noted how I had my kit setup and specified my settings for the Ride cymbal, (an Alesis, 14”, 3-zone cymbal pad).

I assumed the settings, which work fine for the RBM-20 module, would work the same for the DM-10. (Note that the Alesis 14” cymbal pad has two TRS ports, which need to be connected to get the choke).

However, I hadn’t tried that particular cymbal on the DM-10 until tonight, (after my initial post). Therefore, I’m posting a correction and detailing exactly what I did find to work well with the DM-10 module and that 3-zone cymbal.

The Alesis 14” Cymbal is a 3-zone triggered pad and does have the ability to be ‘choked’. However, I had to give up the choke feature because it interfered with the Ride’s bow and bell response & sounds, (which for me, is more critical).

The CABLE:
The Cable I use is a 3-way 1⁄4”-male TRS. One end has the 1⁄4”, 2-channel, (or collar) tip, which I plugged into the upper, “8 Ride 1” port of the module. The other end splits into, two individual, 1⁄4” single-collar tips.

I used a ‘trial & error’ method to figure out which of the two single-collar tips plugged into the right & left ports of the 14” Alesis cymbal pad. It did seem to make a significant difference for me.

(NOTE: I also tried using two, 2-channel/collar tips instead of the single collar ones and found that the 2-collar 1⁄4” TRS tips didn’t allow me to get a separate bow and bell sound).

TRIGGER SETTINGS:
I used these Trigger & mode settings. I can’t say they’ll work for you but as an experienced drummer, (over 50 years on acoustic sets), I have grown to know what I want an ‘all-around’ ride cymbal to sound like, so take that for whatever it’s worth, it’s all about personal preferences.

DM-10 Ride Cymbal voice: H HvyStk 21”

“RideBow” Trigger settings:
MODE: 2-Zone
INP: 80
TRIG: Xtalk Rcv= 02, Xtalk Snd= 05, ReTrigger- 35, Threshold= 10
CURV: Spline 3

“RideBell” Trigger settings:
INP: 35 | Input Type: Switch
TRIG: Xtalk Rcv= 04, Xtalk Snd= 04, ZoneXtalk= 00
CURV: Spline 2

That’s it; I hope that’ll help someone. It’s interesting to note that the RBM-20 had some key differences compared to the DM-10 but I want to avoid confusion so I’m not going to list those.
Rich