New DM10 OS 2.0

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Back in 2010 a topic called Crowdsourcing DM10 OS 2.0 was started by an Alesis employee over at DMdrummer.com. Many of us DM10 users got excited about the possibility of Alesis updating the DM10 module with a few new features. At that time we were asked by Alesis which features we would like to see included in the upcoming OS 2 update. There were about 20 different features that were requested. (please see the above link for the list). Unfortunately, the idea of an updated DM10 OS 2 just faded away. Alesis never gave a reason why. I'm posting this because I would hope that Alesis would reconsider taking this project off the back burner and make this OS update a reality sooner rather than later. It would make many DM10 owners very happy.

Thanks for your time,

HF
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Posted 8 years ago

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Hello Mr Sandeen.

Well what are these updates you have been posting about the past few days, if no updates are slated for the DM10 Module?? I'm lost I think. Because I thought there were updates that are coming to the DM10 any day now! Please explain if you could? What exactly are we waiting for??
thanks
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This is concerning the 2.0 new implementations from the DmDrummer site as noted at the top of this thread.
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The update I speak of is not related to OS v2.0.
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But that doesn't answer my question. So what exactly is coming out that you are speaking of? What does it entail? What is going to be the update that you are referring to? What will it do and be?
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This is also reference to what HF was showing examples of on this thread and the DmDrummer forum.

Its a minor update.
Sound OS : v1.00q instead of v1.00p listed on the site
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it sure seems silly to have to ask the same question so many times in so many different ways just to get a proper answer, but I guess if I must then I must. What will be different on our DM10 Modules once the p switches to the q in our versions? what is not there in p, that will be there when q is downloaded? What will change? What will be different?
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Hi Sublimaze69,

please see this post:
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Official Response
Hi All,

App Update (v1.00q) has been posted.
This is valid for the DM10 studio kit and DM10X kit.

(under docs&downloads)
http://www.alesis.com/dm10studiokit
http://www.alesis.com/dm10xkit
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So no love for dm10 pro users? :(
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I'm using a Dm10 Pro, and I'm upgrading as soon as I get home - after writing down my trigger settings. There is no reason not to upgrade for Dm10 Pro users. ;)

Edit: heh - the folder inside the zip file "DM10 Studio and X Kit v1.03 Update.zip" with the "complete" package is called "DM10 Pro Kit v1.03 Update".. :D :D
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Good news J! I don't own a DM10 yet but I see you were a good link between customers and Alesis.
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Sorry I left out the PRO. It will also take this update.
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Very interesting in deed - could we get a list of changes?

I see the boot application has been updated as well, from 1.00e to 1.00h - any word on the changes there too?

So far I've noticed a change in the installation instructions:
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Adjust the Trigger Settings – (DM10 Studio Kit and X Kit only)

Once your DM10 module is updated, be sure to set your Trigger Settings to the correct kit before playing. Note that this section of the installation guide is specific to the DM10 Studio Kit and the DM10 X Kit only.

1. Power on your DM10 module.
2. Press the UTILITY button.
3. In the screen that appears, choose F4 (SYS).
4. On the next screen, choose F2 (INIT). Note: The bottom setting on this screen will always say DM10 Studio Triggers when you first arrive at this screen no matter which Trigger Settings are currently selected in your module.
5. Use the CURSOR down button to highlight the DM10 Studio Triggers setting.
6. Use the VALUE / TEMPO knob to change between the DM10 Studio Triggers setting and the DM10 X Kit Triggers setting depending upon which kit you have. Once you have chosen the correct kit, press the F4 (EXEC) button to set your DM10 module trigger settings.
7. You will receive the following message: Are you sure? Initialize all trigger settings? Choose F1 (YES).
8. Finally, press the DRUM KIT button to get back to the main screen. Your trigger settings are now set.
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So - now there are several (better, hopefully) pre-configured sets of trigger settings, tailored to the different hardware pakcages? This seems like very good news! :)
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There are no release notes that I have seen sorry.
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Hey J Sandeen,

Wow thats a big jump

i Will try this thonight thanX

IS there a possiblety for the European users to downloads this file?
We can't make an account on the alesis website. you need an american ZIP code.
I entered one and it works but. there should be an country scroll instead.
Thanks
an i will send feedback
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Thats not that important. You can make something up if needed ;-)
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I just pulled of the updates:

- My own drum sounds where still there (101 - 129)
- Some of them had a sound change but for the better
- Update the trigger settings and reset to studio
- After upgrading some sens settings this was a nice suprise
that the ride/bell issue was history. even the tom1 had a better reaction.
- I could not find a setting to change my startup kit

So conlusion go for it.
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Thanks. Nice work J Sandeen on getting some action. Very impressed........now try push push for OS 2.0!!!
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Thanks J!

It's good to see custom trigger settings depending on the type of kit.

As for a video that I posted above that started this thing with the "q" update. Is it safe to assume that the video posted above of a module with a different start-up kit (his module started at kit #102 and not #000) is an issue with his module?

I ask because I did not find any kind of new function in this update that would give the user the ability to change the start-up kit in that fashion.

Again, thanks for looking it to this and like Daniel McAulay stated above:

"now try push push for OS 2.0!!!" :)

Thanks again,

HF
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"Is it safe to assume that the video posted above of a module with a different start-up kit (his module started at kit #102 and not #000) is an issue with his module? "
-It is a possibility, yes.
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You're all welcome!
Thank you for your support and patience.
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What exactly does this update do for the people who only have the DM 10 drum brain itself? Just wondering, thank you.
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so, no love for up DM10 Pro users?
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trond.roaas

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Only to those that don't read comments earlier in the thread.
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I left out the PRO. You CAN use it with that kit as well.
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Interesting, would I want to? The PRO download page lists app update v1.00l
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If you are happy with your kit, you do not HAVE to update. The update covers all trigger configurations.
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UP for this
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Just bought a DM 10 X to use with XLN's Addictive Drums. Extremely dissapointed in the fact that you can't reassign the HH and cymbals. How hard can it be to make this slight update? Worst buy ever. If I knew this I would have bought a Roland.

Respect your customers requests!
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Hi Marcus, it was decided to keep these static with the ride/hats since there are multiple zones per instrument, and some of those zones are hidden from the user entirely. Using MIDI mapping through the drum VI can easily overcome.
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Hi J,

thanks for your comment. After years of editing MIDI drums though, it's a big thing suddenly having the drum set laid out on entirely different notes on the piano roll.
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I hear you, there is no other way around it unfortunately.
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MIDI translator may be able to help, if you need to change their values:
http://www.bome.com/products/miditran...
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I am still waiting for an O.S. Update, not some trigger settings updated. Plus, where are the soundsets promissed on the DM10's comercial?! It's funny how you disabled comments of those particular videos on your Youtube vid's. Shamefull, simply shamefull.
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I didn't think any of our videos have comments enabled - due to all the hateraid found on youtube (in general) ;-)

There is not a 2.0 OS update planned, these are just feature request by users for a 'possible' 2.0 refresh.

Only the Bluejay kit has been released.
No other word has been heard.

Thanks for the feedback Alexandre.
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Hateraid in general? Maybe you have considered that hateraid you mention actually has its valid bases? Like, misleading propaganda? Lack of support (and i am not mentioning the "you break it, we fix it") and updates. Look, if you haven't read the comments here, there is hateraid everywhere. Hellfire has a strong point in creating this post, and i am hopefull that this post don't go down easely.

Those "features" that are requested is due to a crowdsourcing made by an Alesis employee (or ex employee) and there we were assured that the O.S.2 was going to happen. What was that? A scheme to attract more costumers?

Another thing is the soundsets, the major selling point of the DM10. There's Bluejay, who feels incomplete, since it was rushed to shup up the US costumers who were making a stir. But me, in Europe, i can't even purchase normally the soundset. To be honest here, i am not even interested in that, since Alesis didn't go with their part of the deal. But in other hand, if i purchased your hardware from Pearl (because we all know the REDBox is a rebranded Alesis DM10) i could purchase there the kits they have available. Your promisses to your costumers are Pearl's to take. We feel that we have chosen the wrong brand to our module.

Since your new e-drum team are only interested in making Led Flashy toys for Rockband, like the DMLite, and rebranded Medelli kits like the DM7X and DM7 Session, then at least make the DM10 open source, since not even Alesis is interested in improving their own module. There are far better programmers out there that love more the Alesis DM10 than Alesis itself.

Yet again, Alesis saddens me. They show such "Not Invented Here" sindrome that i, as a costumer, and a owner of an Alesis DM10 (fooled by your misleading propaganda), feel left out. Thats why i am selling my kit now. No respect for costumer demands. We all feel left out, and considering that this was your flagship module, it makes no sense.

HERE is my feedback.
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Thanks for the feedback Alexandre.
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J Sandeen (Technical Representative) 1 month ago
"Only the Bluejay kit has been released.
No other word has been heard. "

J Sandeen (Technical Representative) 1 year ago
"To all,

No worries about the expandable aftermarket kits. We will be working with Sonivox to make this happen. I have requested that the site change to reflect this. I do not have a timeline but I know they will do an amazing job.

Check out some of their work:
http://www.sonivoxmi.com/"

So...what gives here? A year ago you said Alesis was working with Sonivox, now you are saying there are no plans? Typical Alesis misdirection, hype the consumers then bash their excitement by basically giving them the middle finger. I actually feel sorry for you Mr. Sandeen, as the customer relations guy you have to take all the flak from disgruntled consumers...and there seem to be quite a few of us. You know, if Alesis would just follow through on their advertising promises they wouldn't have so much "haterade" on their videos. Plenty of other reputable companies allow comments on their Youtube pages and have very few issues. That should tell you something, too bad the higher ups in your company are not interested in keeping customers.
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Hi Jeese, thanks for the feedback.
I have not heard of any new sound sets for the DM10 module. Unfortunately, I cannot guaranty anything myself - I can only stress your concerns. Currently there is only the Blue Jay Kit available.
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Oh come on now, I just quoted you saying that Alesis was working with Sonivoxmi on new kits for the DM10, something you said a year ago. Now you are saying you have not heard of any new sound sets? Which one is it?
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Jesse Anderson, that is Alesis in a nutshell. They have awesome ideas, but quickly drops them. And then they make fools out of ourselves by stating that they never stated. I have some Alesis gear on my posession, but the Alesis DM10 is the vinegar on my studio. They simply don't understand that the module needs an upgrade, we don't need DMlites or DM7. Those are just rebrands from Medelli, a chinese E-Drum company. The DM10 is something created by Alesis, module-wise, and it is awesome. Unfortunatelly they don't care, since they must had a personel restruturation and they basically ditched those ideas and concepts. Or sold them to Pearl, but even them are long in the tooth.

J Sandeen, and what about now? That update? Because the X-Hat that you are going (i think) to sell will require such, because the DM10 is programed to handle static hi-hat pads. There will be mad crosstalk issues there. So? Are you going to pull out a DM6 on us, and launch a product that generates MAD crosstalk reaching a point that is simply unplayable?

Unless the X-Hat is as elusive as the DMDock that is making appearances 3 years in a row on Winter NAMM's and all, and just doesn't come out the damn thing. Maybe Jesus will come first than the DMDock, really.

I wish i had purchased a Yamaha e-kit instead.
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http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/sho...

So, Mr. Sandeen, Pearl confirms that an update is needed for the XHat to work properly, so...?
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Funny how this topic isn't any longer on the main page.

Good work Alesis. Talk about "the client is allways right". As long as we keep it out of the main focus, isn't it?

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